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LeakProof 07-18-2009 12:03 PM

Do I have to split the case?
 
Do I have to split the case to replace the wristpin bushing (in order to remove the rod)
I nicked it good trying to get the piston pin out.

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Flat6pac 07-18-2009 12:35 PM

not nessarily but if youre that far down reseal the case any way.
Rod bushing, put the pin back in fit it because the pin floats so it only has to be free.

Bruce

kodioneill 07-18-2009 12:52 PM

That's a "wrist pin bushing" not a rod bushing.

Scott R 07-18-2009 12:55 PM

At this point you need machine work on the rod, best to split the sucker and do it right. Have them all re-bushed and balanced, it's the only way to be sure.

LeakProof 07-18-2009 12:59 PM

Yea, Bruce I'm getting pretty far down aren't I.
Splitting the case will definitely make things 100%.
I suspect the #8 o-ring is as worn as the others and thats the only way to get to it.
Also contamination while tearing down is a thought.
I could also check the bearings while I'm in there.
The thing is the car ran great (besides oil leaks) until I discovered the broken head stud.

Thanks,

Leakproof.

Scott R 07-18-2009 01:01 PM

It's piece of mind at this point, add some ARP rod bolts and coated bearings, you can call them "modifications" if it helps ease the pain of splitting the case. ;)

Bobboloo 07-18-2009 01:38 PM

You can remove the rod without splitting the case. Since the nick is on the edge it's not a big deal. I would just take down the high spots with a rat tail file.

I would make the decision on whether or not to split the case depending on the miles on the bottom end. If it's got a ton of miles then the bottom end will need rebuilding anyway. If it's low miles then why create more work when it's not necessary?

don gilbert 07-18-2009 02:33 PM

you could clean that up with emory cloth

RWebb 07-18-2009 05:41 PM

how many miles on your '79??

maybe it is nearly time to split the case anyway

LeakProof 07-19-2009 06:14 AM

Sorry guys, I should no better when asking for your valued advice. 109,893 on the clock.

Gunter 07-19-2009 06:40 AM

109k Miles is not enough to warrant splitting the case to replace bottom bearings IMHO.
As for the wrist pin bushings: I f there is no play, or play within specs, I would file the nick a little and leave it.
It's your call.
If the bushing needs to be pushed back into place, use a C-clamp with pieces of ALU or brass for protection. Make sure that the holes for oil delivery line up.

I would do a valve job.
If the cams don't have any galling on the lobes, re-install.

Bobboloo 07-19-2009 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeakProof (Post 4785141)
Sorry guys, I should no better when asking for your valued advice. 109,893 on the clock.

Toss up. You could double those miles easily before rebuilding the bottom end but on the other hand a completely rebuilt motor is worth more than a motor with just the top end rebuilt.

It's quite possible, however, that this motor will last the life of the car without ever rebuilding the bottom end. If it were me I think I would probably just remove the rod, clean the burr and re-attach the rod with new rod bolts. I would inspect the rod bearings however to insure that the bottom end is healthy.

LeakProof 07-19-2009 08:03 AM

Definitely going to inspect the heads. probably wise to replace the valve guides at this point and any thing else that needs refurbishing.
So the rods (if need be) can be removed without splitting the case. Thats good news.

Thanks.

Leakproof.

RWebb 07-19-2009 10:54 AM

if well maintained, these motors can go 200k or 300k w/o any bottom end issues.

the decision is mainly one of paranoia -- or prudence and depends on the maintenance history of the car...

I did it on my 3.2L (when hotrodding it) but everything was fine - I had no idea of the car's history only that somebody wrecked it and I then bought the motor...

Flat6pac 07-19-2009 12:16 PM

reseal the case and change the intermediate bearings and chain ramps, mike the mains and look to see theyre clean on the surface, let the rods be, just reseal because the same oil clean on the mains is indictative of the rods. The bottom of a 78/79 3.0 is good for 200K +

Bruce


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