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would you trade a 84 911 slantnose conversion for this car?

Im not sure what to do i got offered a trade for my 1984 911 slantnose conversion , my car is a high end all metal conversion, southern car with zero rust, 111000 miles, great condition , the car i was offered is a 1966 Ford Mustang fastback (a Code) not sure what to do and if this is a even trade?
here is the guys email and some links to pics

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I call this my magic car. Until you’ve owned one of these, it’s hard to imagine the following that these cars have with people. If I got $5.00 for everytime I’ve been filmed or stopped in a parking lot for pictures, I’d have two of these by now. These cars were built very crude back then with little detail to fit & finish. If you drive these cars aggressively, you must be on your toes. I think that’s what makes these old cars so fun to own and drive. If your 911 is anything like mine was, you have to do something pretty stupid to get into trouble. As they say now a-days, with all this stability control etc. it still cannot over-ride the laws of physics. This 66 fastback was imported from California 5 years ago, shell only, no drive-train, suspension or interior at a cost of $17,000.00 US. The entire body was stripped of original paint and required very little body-work on some minor dents. Paint is base clear silver with painted-on stripes and clear coated over. Hood is fibreglass as were all the Shelby’s . All chrome except for the mirrors has been re-chromed or replaced and is in as new condition. Wheels are factory “Style-wheels” as they would have been in 66. I believe that this was the only year that they used trim-rings on the styled wheel. The 302 c.i. engine came from a donor car. It sports a dual-plane air-gap intake with a 600 Edlebrock carb. Edlebrock aluminum heads, stock exhaust manifolds, duraspark ignition, 8 quart milodon oil pan and cobra style valve covers and air filter. Cooling system is 3-row aluminum radiator, electric fan with adjustable temperature control. Power is transferred through a 5-speed Tremec, race style transmission, new HD drive shaft to 8.8 inch open differential. The car will get 22-24 MPG on the highway if you use 5th gear. Exhaust is 2” diameter into Imco chamber style mufflers with 2-1/2” stainless tips through the rear valance. Brakes are non-power disc brakes with 4 piston callipers up front with drums on the back. The interior is pretty much all new except for the door panels. I fabricated a walnut and cherry centre console to compliment the wood steering wheel. It houses an oil gauge and temp gauge and cup holder.


The car im looking to trade is a 1984 Porsche 911 Slantnose Conversion,

Flickr: crxturbo90zc's Photostream


here is a link to the mustang pics i have
Flickr: porsche914_64's Photostream

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I wouldn't trade but I don't like Mustangs so that doesn't count.

I would be leery of someone wanting to trade you cars out of the blue. It may be legit but maybe not.

Is the Mustang owner a Pelican?

That fact would change things for the trade, IMO.
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i had my car listed on a site looking to trade for a classic 60s early 70s muscle car so he responded to a ad i had put on there
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I see.

I can only suggest that yo do some research on what a similar Mustang is going for these days and try to put your "own" value on it.

Then you could weigh the value of the transaction and make a decision.
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One thing you've got to remember is you're going to be driving 1960's technology.
If that's what you're into go for it.
Does he have any pics of the restoration/paint process the car went thru?

This is a car my brother built from the ground up.
He's right about the fit and finish aspect of them. They were assembled in quick order so you won't find the finish up to Porsche standards.
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No way would I trade for that car - he say why himself:
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These cars were built very crude back then with little detail to fit & finish. If you drive these cars aggressively, you must be on your toes.
Have you driven one of these old cars lately? The suspension is very crude - especially next to a Porsche.

The Mustang engine isn't even the original engine - even if this car looks great, the engine alone will limit your investment return.
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I've seen your ad, you're in Toronto.

1984 Porsche 911 Slantnose '' Sell/Trade for classic car" - Ottawa / Gatineau Collector Cars For Sale - Kijiji Ottawa / Gatineau

Hard to say if this is a fair trade or not. Neither car is original which affects both values but if that's not what you're after, then it's a non-issue.

The old Mustang could be a fun ride but having owned several old Mopars myself, I know that the vintage rides are great to look at and be seen in, but their driving dynamics leave much to be desired. The Mustang platform can be made to be a good handler though, maybe this one has the appropriate mods already in place? The first thing I'd do though is swap a traction-loc diff into that open rear end. Open diffs have no place on a performance car. The high-winding 302 and 5-speed combo sounds great and the style of that car can't be argued with.

Still, as I mentioned, I've done the classic american car thing and quickly tired of the car cruise scene. Prepare yourself to be insulted as often as you're complimented about the car as everyone is an expert and is self-empowered to let you know every single thing that is not OEM correct on your ride. Even after your explain that it's a hot-rod or resto-mod, they still continue breaking your b@lls until you get fed up and leave. Of course, you can't go too far since the V8 consumes huge quantities of fuel (regardless of what the p/o is telling you) and the handling will give you flashbacks to your last Caribbean boat cruise. But I digress...

At the end of the day, it's up to you. Follow your brain, not your heart.
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I love old mustangs - they look "right" - but driving one from that era is a totally different story. Even as a "fun" car - they don't stop/turn worth a poop. Not sure I could go from a Porsche to any one of these.
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I am considering buying one of those for my wife next year. I love the styling of the early mustangs.

I hear alot of people on here warning you that this is a 60's car and expect 60's handling... like it or not, the 911 was designed in the early 60's. Your Carrera is not much different than a SC (slightly improved brakes), and stiffer torsion bars. The SC was really no different than a Mid Year car except for antisway bars. The mid year cars differ from the early cars in torsion bars, heavier antisway bars (if equipped), adjustable trailing arms, heavier front suspension parts.

The bottom line is that the 911 from 64 - 89 was the same 1960's design with only minor incremental changes for 25 years.

Porsche did get the handling better that ford did - that's a given but my track car that competes with Caymens and 996s is based on 60's suspension engineering.
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Porsche was way ahead of the curve in the 60's in many fronts, as far as the Mustang or many other Detroit iron, can you say Solid axel, leaf springs and drum brakes!!!
I find it amazing that the manufacturers are still using rear drum brakes.

My $.02

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i looked for a nice slopenose car for sometime. gave up and bought a Pelicans 85 Targa. i also own a 308 GTB QV and an old 4 speed Trans Am. no way would i trade the 911 for the Mustang.

buy a nice Mustang you can see and drive in person, and wait for the right buyer for your slopenose car. i love driving my ancient Trans Am, and compared to my 911 and 308 , they are a nice mix of the fun car spectrum.

good luck to you.
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I have owned more than one 60s era muscle car.

Although I love them for what they are, it would be really difficult to convince me to trade my 911 for one.

Would I own both? Hell yeah.
Would I pick the Mustang over the 911? Hell no.
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I wouldnt trade my 911 for a muscle car for the reasons above, however... I would think it's about an even trade.
That Tremic 5 speed trans is a big plus with the stang.
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