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FF2239 01-12-2010 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanagorsche (Post 5118149)
Glad to see this thread! I'm a lurker, lured on by this kind invitation. SmileWavy
I recently bought an '81 VW Westfalia camper van that has a '77 911S 2.7L engine....]

It's pretty cool to see that this thread actually influenced you to sign up to Pelican.

Welcome & glad to have you & your shared knowledge here.

Its unfortunate for some that they will never accept the fact that Porsche & VW are family forever. Hell, even the the latest Porsche Panamera body shell is currently made in the VW plant in Hanover.

For years & years I too have been a lurker like you in addition to a hardcore Porsche & VW guy. I collect my cars & parts and pretty much keep very quiet on the forums and let all the others do the talking. There are many, many more of us on here that maintain a stealth presence and just sit back, watch & listen even when we have strong opinions or know the answers.

Its hard to comment unless you've actually experienced a fast Porsche 911 powered, big motor or turbo Type 2 Bus. Blowing away modern cars in a updated vintage public adoring VW Bus is mind boggling to those in your rear view mirror. Total sleeper, totally unexpected. After is all said and done, you can take your Bus loaded with gear to Yosemite and set up the tent for a weekend of camping & fishing. Return home and pack the dogs in for a trip to the beach and then to HomeDepot for 2x4's & concrete. I've never been able to do that in my 911, 356, Bug, Notchback,etc...there is just something about Buses.

Father Ferry Porsche and two of the kids, 1958.
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RWebb 01-12-2010 01:56 PM

Ferry is hardly a father to the Beatle - under your analogy, he is more like a brother...

FF2239 01-14-2010 05:39 PM

John Walker's 911 DC. One of the first guys to 911 a Type 2 back in 2003.

Photos & info by John Walker.

www. johnwalkersworkshop .com

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1263522087.jpg

"911 torsion tube, swing arm, disc brake, from 73 911. tube must be welded in ahead of the stock bus position to get the engine inside the rear of the bus enough, and to center the wheels in the wheel well."

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3.2

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"The 911 rear torsion tube in place after removing the bus tube. it sits farther forward than the bus tube. note the outer flanges which had to be fabbed and welded on, as the retainer bolt holes in a 911 are in the body sheetmetal."

Additional info on this build at Walkers Samba thread.

FF2239 01-28-2010 07:17 PM

TH2RS

"Having a Porsche 911 prepared engine Volkswagen Transporter TH2RS is a very fast car, even faster than a BMW M3! In fact this model is not only a powerful utility car, is a utility car that can beat even some supercars, see for example the Audi R8. The secret lies under the hood, where it was mounted a Porsche 911 Turbo engine, which through the intervention of the 9ff has climbed to 800hp.
So those from TH, the people who have turned, literally, the T5, in a Hulk, were presented with their new toy on the circuit at Nardo, with the bold goal of reaching 300 km/h. They were surprised that the maximum speed shown on the GPS is even more impressive, actually appearing 310.7 km/h.
Unbelievable for a model that was designed for something else and to whom you give more opportunities to disintegrate or to overturn at that astonishing speed. Another advantage is represented by the special suspension which becomes stronger as the speed increases, improving the stability. Also, this model comes with a set of Brembo brakes for endurance. All the car occupants will be well “immobilized” in the Recaro seats."

automotorblog. c o m

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FF2239 02-07-2010 09:11 PM

Jacks 3.6
 
Jacks 3.6

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Long Nose 02-08-2010 08:44 AM

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My winter driver is an 82 Westfalia, I call it the Vanagulf (due to the paint livery)

The Type IV motor that was in the Vanagon, and some of the late busses was developed by Porsche / VW for use in the 914, so some can argue the a Type IV motor is a Porsche motor. It is actually a interesting motor, and some have increased displacement as high as 3.0L and they put out a lot of power.

I recently rebuilt my Type IV, and used the performance cam, solid lifters and valve train kit from the 914. I also found a supplier who provided new heads that were machined to accept larger valves and were ported and flowed. I kept the original fuel injection, but I recently learned that it is pretty easy to upgrade to the fuel injections system used in the 914, and that this will also provide a bit more performance.

I retained the original 94mm pistons (providing 1997cc displacement), but I really wish I had upgraded to a 96mm (2157cc displacement, same as water boxers). I was told that the engine runs too hot with a 96mm piston, so you have the danger of dropping a valve. However, I also upgraded to a larger oil pump and an external oil cooler, and find that I run consistently at around 200 degrees (according to the cyl. head temp. sensor I installed), so I am wishing I had gone with the 96mm piston, but who knows.

I am running stock heat exchangers, but a bug pack quiet pack exhaust which also runs a bit cooler than the stock muffler.

I love the way it turned out!!! tonnes of torque, sounds great, and is a real pleasure to drive.

No way near the HP that a flat 6 would add, but this is a daily driver that I also take into the bush quite regularily, so I wanted something that I could take on a long trip and not have to worry about getting stranded in BF nowhere and trying to find parts, etc. So far it has been very reliable.

Let me know if you want more info...http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1265651015.jpg

myamoto1 02-08-2010 09:08 AM

Here's one done by the Emorys:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1265652462.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1265652421.jpg


Sorry I don't have better pics of it. I thought I did, but can't find them.

boba 02-08-2010 09:52 AM

I thought I had a few more of this one, but can not find them at the moment.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1265655050.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1265655153.jpg

joe payne 02-08-2010 11:06 AM

I saw this Bus one day on the 110 North. Thought it was cool and took a pic with my Blackberry.;)http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1265659567.jpg

quattrorunner 02-08-2010 11:09 AM

YouTube - GT3 OUTBRAKED
Whatch trhe whole thing

quattrorunner 02-08-2010 11:20 AM

YouTube - Porsche VW Bus T3 Vanagon Hockenheimring 2006

67dubcab 02-08-2010 03:44 PM

This is a photo of the modified 3.2 I installed into the middle of my 67 double cab.
More info and pictures on the build thread in the VW/Porsche forums. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1265676170.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/vw-porsche-conversion-tech-forum/524564-porsche-powered-mid-engine-double-cab.html

signature65 02-08-2010 08:58 PM

Looks like a Type I or IV....Not a porsche engine. Only the fan is porsche, and those are a pair of IDA Webers.





Quote:

Originally Posted by myamoto1 (Post 5173348)
Here's one done by the Emorys:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1265652462.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1265652421.jpg


Sorry I don't have better pics of it. I thought I did, but can't find them.


porker buzz 02-24-2010 12:21 AM

porsche 964/993 vanagon
 
i have a t3 vanagon fitted with a 964/993 spec engine with nitros oxide power output 360bhp i also have a 3200cc vanagon with g50 gearboxas a long term project

FF2239 02-24-2010 05:35 AM

Bus & Porsche, pre 911 honeymoon years...

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kplackmeyer 03-30-2010 01:17 PM

Antonio saw my post on another thread and asked that I post it here as well...

Hope you enjoy:

From 88-93 I worked at St. Charles Foreign Car in St. Charles, MO. Back then, we had a customer that would vacation with his family in the 1972 bus he bought brand new, and only used for vacations. Over the years, the guys at the shop had done everything they could to the original motor to eek out every HP they could, making those trips through the Rockies as painless as possible.

Upon returning from a trip after the latest set of performance mods, and still being disappointed, someone mused "why not put a 911 motor in it!" Laughs were quickly replaced with "would it work?"

As I recall, it ended up being a totally rebuilt CIS engine, tranny was sent to someone in CA for a performance rebuild, custom bellhousing and just about everything else was stock. Wider tires, different shocks...the only thing you could see on the outside was the rear bumper was moved back about 1" to accomodate the 911 muffler, the tailpipe was a single output on the left instead of the standard beetle style, and a small black louver was installed below the bumper to conceal the big muffler.

It was a trip to drive, and would smoke Camaros and the like off the line...which made people really scratch their heads.

Pretty sure it was done in 88 or 89.

Here are a couple of old scans that I have...apologies for the poor quality.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1269983766.jpg
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FF2239 10-10-2010 08:19 AM

more of ... The Carrera Performance 23 window Bus..

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1286727527.jpg

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Flieger 10-10-2010 08:54 AM

Cool, any Westies? :)

FF2239 10-10-2010 10:09 AM

1966 Westy

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Not Porsche powered, but still worth mentioning. Owner claimed Worlds Fastest Split Westy. Porsche Disc, Porsche 5.5's up front and Deep 6 in the rear, 356 steering wheel, 2165cc Turbo charged fuel injection VW powered. Unrestored and currently for sale in the UK at £27000 ($43,000)

FF2239 03-02-2011 07:42 PM

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quartermile with a bogging engine... 12.77@178km/h
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Big time respect to Jorn Tangey out of Norway ^^^ ... designer, builder, driver & visionary. You inspire many of us Type 2 guys here in the States.


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