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boxster03 02-20-2010 08:18 AM

Since it is a write off how much for those early sport seats

KevinP73 02-20-2010 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by WRGREENER (Post 5195269)
Ok, enough about the car... Where are the pictures of you date???

Thats what I was thinking. We've seen pics of the car driven hard and wrecked, how 'bout a couple of the girl after being driven hard and wrecked?:D

DARISC 02-20-2010 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by WolfeMacleod (Post 5195638)
Nope, it's authentic. :( And, the wheel that came from the factory, too...

I don't understand. You're a swordmaker; how do you explain a chunk breaking off of a forging rather than the forging bending?

I know that one issue with running cheap, cast knock-offs with thin rims is the danger of their breaking apart from side impact rather than bending.

I know that, within reason, Fuchs (which are forged - cookie cutters are cast) which have been bent can be straightened. As I understand it, castings don't bend, they break. Can one draw an analogy here between a "real" forged sword and a cheap, cast knock-off made for looks but not fighting?

Noah930 02-20-2010 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by paulgtr (Post 5195681)
I can just imagine. but those canyon roads are pretty desolate right? not a lot of intersections I hope. that is my fear. can't wait to do my first DE day in april at lime rock. have never felt like I could really drive my car as it should be on the roads. just not prudent

True, the canyon roads of Southern California are moderately desolate. The countryside of New England is much more populated. And speed limit enforcement is must stricter, in comparison. But those roads in the Berkshires around Lime Rock are absolutely gorgeous, and very tempting to take at speed. Best of luck for cooperative weather in April.

Packy 02-20-2010 11:43 AM

I was only 5 miles per hour above the speed limit. FYI. and the red limit is 6200 put the car about 55mph. I was going only about 45 at the fastest and we slowed down quite a bit before the wall.

Packy 02-20-2010 11:48 AM

By the way, thanks for all the uplifting comments. I have a date with her today in about 15 minutes. I'll try to get some camera phone shots.

Packy 02-20-2010 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Geronimo '74 (Post 5195369)

Don't take this the wrong way but if I had to guess your age after reading this, I would say you're about 17....


Yeah, sounds about right. I'm 17 going on 29 which is probably why I bought a porsche and not a prius ;)

I was thinking my rebuild should look something like the following with a skyjacker lift kit and 44" mud swampers and maybe a snorkel from an old defender 90.

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efhughes3 02-20-2010 12:19 PM

Posted speed limits are for dry conditions.

zippy_gg 02-20-2010 12:26 PM

Nah! Posted speed limits are for wimps!!!:D

Craig_D 02-20-2010 12:48 PM

Hey Packy, sorry to hear about your crash. Don't let it get you down, you'll be able to build up another car, and hopefully things heal up on your girl. Maybe you'll have a great "how I met your mother" story some day while driving with her on some sweet roads in another sweet Porsche.

Glad neither of you were hurt badly. Best of luck buddy!

- CraigD

paulgtr 02-20-2010 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Noah930 (Post 5195888)
True, the canyon roads of Southern California are moderately desolate. The countryside of New England is much more populated. And speed limit enforcement is must stricter, in comparison. But those roads in the Berkshires around Lime Rock are absolutely gorgeous, and very tempting to take at speed. Best of luck for cooperative weather in April.

the roads all through out connecticut are very tempting, but I would never be able to forgive myself if I hurt someone else. the chances are just to high for someone to step out or drive out. really need to get on track and cut loose!

WolfeMacleod 02-20-2010 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DARISC (Post 5195829)
I don't understand. You're a swordmaker; how do you explain a chunk breaking off of a forging rather than the forging bending?

I know that one issue with running cheap, cast knock-offs with thin rims is the danger of their breaking apart from side impact rather than bending.

I know that, within reason, Fuchs (which are forged - cookie cutters are cast) which have been bent can be straightened. As I understand it, castings don't bend, they break. Can one draw an analogy here between a "real" forged sword and a cheap, cast knock-off made for looks but not fighting?

I've seen plenty of forged swords break during combat. Brittleness, rockwell hardness, internal flaws...all play a roll in whether they will bend or break.
Why this particular wheel broke, I don't know. But it did. And it is not a replica.
What really sucks is that all the wheels on the car were flawless.

But yeah, here ya go. :D

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lateapex911 02-20-2010 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by paulgtr (Post 5195681)
I can just imagine. but those canyon roads are pretty desolate right? not a lot of intersections I hope. that is my fear. can't wait to do my first DE day in april at lime rock. have never felt like I could really drive my car as it should be on the roads. just not prudent

Yea, Lime Rock in April can have snow on the ground. OR track! Another alternative to the PCA is SCDA. I instruct with them, and they're pretty good. Super easy going, no lottery/signing up 4 months in advance, classroom instruction, individual instructor for you, and easy tech. If you want some date flexibility, take a look at their site.

paulgtr 02-20-2010 02:21 PM

what is that? pardon my ignorance. I'm in the city, but I keep my car with family in bridgeport and my sister lives in blackrock.

GaryR 02-20-2010 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by paulgtr (Post 5195681)
Can't wait to do my first DE day in april at lime rock. have never felt like I could really drive my car as it should be on the roads. just not prudent

Which day will you be there? I'm instructing on 4/5 with CVR, 4/6 with HVR, and 4/17 with HCP.. Come say hello!

Wait a minute ... Paul G? Did I just pick your car up for Dan Jacobs? If so you must be coming on Sat. 4/17, eh? :D

paulgtr 02-20-2010 02:33 PM

I'll be there on apr. 17th. I have to attend an orientation before I go however. unfortunately, the HCR meeting is in albany! I'm in manhattan! not exactly close. I am a member of the CVR PCA and they have a workshop in southbury which is much closer. is that an alternative?
and yes I will be sure to come and say hello. and ask a billion questions. my car is in good shape, just don't look at the paint job right now!

lateapex911 02-20-2010 02:38 PM

Hey neighbor!

Sports Car Driving Association - Performance Driving in a Safe and Controlled Environment

Sports Car Driving Association. It's a track day organization that teaches proper driving techniques for high speed track driving and racing. They have several run groups, novice, intermediate and advanced (and instructor). Novices MUST have an instructor IN the car. Intermediates may, if they like, or, in some cases, must. In between the track sessions, Bill Prout (or Whelen Corvette in the Speed World Challenge diver Eric Curran (also ex SCCA Improved Touring (IT)) who shows up once in a while) conduct classroom sessions to teach the lines, techniques, etc.

It seems like I'm on track constantly, but that's because I'm with students in two groups and in my own car in the instructor group. Lot's of track time. It depends on the track, but at Watkins Glen I think you get 5 20 minute sessions. Most students find 20 minutes to be just right, and many are "done" before the last session.

Anyway, it's a good organization, and it opens up more chances to hit the track, if you have date conflicts with the PCA. Just another option!

paulgtr 02-20-2010 02:41 PM

very cool. I'm in connecticut every couple of weeks. have to get together and talk shop one of these days. I want to get on track more. driving the car on the street is becoming pointless.

GaryR 02-20-2010 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by paulgtr (Post 5196178)
I'll be there on apr. 17th. I have to attend an orientation before I go however. unfortunately, the HCR meeting is in albany! I'm in manhattan! not exactly close. I am a member of the CVR PCA and they have a workshop in southbury which is much closer. is that an alternative?
and yes I will be sure to come and say hello. and ask a billion questions. my car is in good shape, just don't look at the paint job right now!

Email the registrar and ask, if there is material that they need to go over with you maybe its something they can send and I can take care of it.. let me know how I can help once you hear from them.

paulgtr 02-20-2010 02:47 PM

I have already sent them an email. but that was an hour ago. just waiting to hear from them. I will let you know when I know. looking forward to finally getting my 9 on track. having her put in proper track shape by Dan Jacobs right now. so I feel confident my car will be up to the task, even if she looks like a junkyard dog!


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