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cudabnu 05-20-2010 09:26 AM

my 3.6 conversion in my 993 conversion
 
Car is a 1980 993 body conversion with a 993 oil tank, Found a good deal on 48K mile 91 3.6L, so now jumping in head first on that conversion. Also talking to Aaron at Rennwerks, i'm going to install a 965 oil filter console and 944 oil filter. I ended up getting the Flywheel, wiring, oil tube and case studs from Patrick Motorsports. Ordered yesterday and it arrived today! I will be using the 993 HE's and Cat (thanks to Pelican classifieds!) since the car will have to pass Ca smog. Also picked up a Sachs Power clutch kit and new bolts, new valve cover gaskets and spark plugs, dist. belt, dist vent kit since now is the time to change it all while the engine is out! The engine should be delivered next week. For Oil cooling I ordered a Elephant Racing RSR oil cooler duct, and a big front mount oil cooler, if it is not enough, then a fender mount will be added. I'll try to post pics as I go, but I'll probably get too excited and forget to take pics!

Here's what I have so far..

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1274376340.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1274376362.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1274376384.jpg

cudabnu 05-20-2010 09:47 AM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1274377609.jpg

Kroggers 05-20-2010 11:37 AM

I will be following you closely, as I have just started my 3.6 transplant into an early 911sc. I went the Instant-G approach, so will be interesting to see how your kit looks in relationship to the stuff I get...

Do you have any more details about the 965 oil filter console and 944 oil filter?

Interesting project by the way - good luck!

cudabnu 05-20-2010 11:59 AM

Check out Smart Racing website under the engine .pdf to see a pic of it. The 965 puts a 15 degree kick to the front of the car so it is easier to change the oil filter with the early oil hardline. Aaron from Rennwerks told me the 944 oil filter is bigger than the 993 oil filter, that the 993 oil filter was only designed to handle the flow for the cam and rockers. Mine should arrive tomorrow, and I'll get a pic posted.

ShakinJoe 05-20-2010 11:59 AM

Gonna be purty!

cudabnu 05-20-2010 06:39 PM

Any of you guys who have already done the conversion and have detailed pics, please share. I'm a visual kind of guy! I will try to return the favor as I do mine. This weekend I may try to start installing the DME wiring conversion from PM, any tips or suggestions? or better yet..pics!?

ZAMIRZ 05-20-2010 08:29 PM

I'm usually against the SC/Carrera to 993 conversion, but yours looks real nice.

cudabnu 05-21-2010 06:45 AM

Thanks. I wanted to do it right (all 993 glass and door window frames, all 993 interior even converted the wipers). I wanted the best of both worlds!

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZAMIRZ (Post 5361943)
I'm usually against the SC/Carrera to 993 conversion, but yours looks real nice.


cudabnu 05-21-2010 10:41 AM

Here's a few pics of the 965 Oil Console:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1274467252.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1274467300.jpg

TerryBPP 05-21-2010 11:24 AM

What do you think you will be into for ($) out the door? With this much attention to detail I would assume you would be close to the cost of purchasing a 993 and have decent resale.

cudabnu 05-21-2010 06:15 PM

Yes, by far I could have bought a nice 993 C4 by now! I haven't added it all up, and never will, must of my fun is in the build, once it is done, i'm sure i'll be looking for something else to work on.

wax105 05-22-2010 03:28 AM

Amen!

Now get to work... ;) VDubs for life!

cudabnu 05-25-2010 12:41 PM

Just got my 993 HE's from a fellow Pelican and cut the flanges on the right side to flip them so they will bolt up to the 964 3.6L

Bought a used PM throttle cable, so about the only left is the fuel system to start geting parts for. Engine was not picked up yet, so I went with another company, hopefully will be picked up today and with any luck I'll see it Friday, But Saturday I have to go to Sacramento for a VW show.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1274820104.jpg

cudabnu 06-01-2010 04:16 PM

Engine arrived today! I started by taking off the power steering pump and installed the block off plate, then removed the stock bellhousing studs. Working on getting the exhaust removed next, Then I will move on to the flywheel and clutch.

cudabnu 06-02-2010 06:41 PM

Got the bellhousing studs replaced and installed the PM flywheel and pilot bearing, rear main seal looked perfect, took the plasma cutter to the bellhousing to cut it out for the magnetic pickup, then adjusted it to 1mm.

I took the engine outside and gave it a good cleaning..
Took some doing but finally got the exhaust off, only broke 2 studs, but they broke at the exhaust flange, so all will come out and new studs put in.

I need to modify the tin for the 993HE's. and then test fit the right side and weld the flanges back on in the correct position.

Also received the used PM throttle cable, so I hooked it up to the engine.

cudabnu 06-09-2010 06:46 AM

Few update pics:

Fitting the trans to cut out for pick-up:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1276094617.jpg

Flanges cut and bolted to engine to get welded back on to HE:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1276094700.jpg


993 HE's on!
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1276094743.jpg


965 oil filter console installed:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1276094799.jpg

Bill Verburg 06-09-2010 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cudabnu (Post 5395428)
.....

965 oil filter console installed:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1276094799.jpg

I don't think that is a 965 console, it looks like a 993. The 965 console has a 15* tilt, the 993 0*

interestingly the 965 console has a 930 part #

cudabnu 06-09-2010 07:33 AM

It is the 965, it is tilted, just hard to see at the angle, if you scroll up about 1/2 way you can see it when I first got it out of the box and took a pic on my desk. Also the 993 does not have the backing part that closes off the cylinder head cavity. It's amazing at how expensive those things have become, almost triple the price in the last 5 years!

BoxsterGT 06-09-2010 08:07 AM

:)

Looks like you need a shorter filter in order to change it w the Oil Lines in the way, or is it just the angle of the photo?

Len

:)

cudabnu 06-09-2010 08:48 AM

yea, it is currently in the way, but it will be "adjusted" to clear once the tranny is back on and the tin work is done.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoxsterGT (Post 5395570)
:)

Looks like you need a shorter filter in order to change it w the Oil Lines in the way, or is it just the angle of the photo?

Len

:)



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