290+ hp versus 230.......not a hard choice.....

thank you

Unless you do what I did and run low boost supercharger (7-8 psi) on your 3.2.

340+ hp versus 290.....not a hard choice.


Additionally... you can turbo or supercharge a 3.2 while keeping the bottom end stock (except euro) where a 3.6 will need to be opened up and compression lowered. :D
However, if your a normally aspirated purist I do understand. ;)

NA rules, turbos blow.....

By all means, upgrade to a 3.6! I did mine into an '80SC back in 1992, when almost no one was doing them. When I received the crate with the 3.6 and a G50, I thought "what have i gotten myself into!". But I soon nixed the G50 and sold it, then got down in earnest doing the adaption. I got the 3.6 wiring diagrams etc. and home engineered the transfer, and created all the conversion parts myself.
I purchased a new in the crate 915/73 LSD trans and flywheel, I also thought that since I no longer need the 3.6 power steering pump, that I would retrofit an engine mounted oil cooler, which I did. With that and a Carrera front fanned cooler, my car runs no hotter than 210 on a hot day with the AC on!
This update is stunning the first time you drive it! Had a fellow Pelican drive my car recently, and he commented, "this thing pulls like a V8!" So after 18yrs of trouble free driving, all I can say is "DO IT". By the way, on the path to the 3.6, I installed a 3.2, but was not impressed with the improvement!

They're both good in their own right. A 350 hp na early 3.6 (964 type) would take quite a bit of cash and probably wouldn't be as streetable. whereas if you put the same amount of money into a forced air 3.2 you would be well in the 400-450 hp range. For pure power there really is no comparison but some people like na motors. I've thought about this many times but I just cant seem to justify sepending 10 to 12k plus on something that wont even get me in the 300 hp range. :p Aside from all this; if a solid na motor is what you want then forgo the 3.2 and jump straight to the 3.6

Rodsrsr,

What supercharger are you running? Was this a kit for the 3.2 or did you fab this up?

Thanks,
Mike

You crazy *****, thats the earliest conversion I have ever heard of. Mine was done in 1998 and I thought that was early!

Its copied from the old SOK kit which uses a Paxton unit. However mine has a different drive so it can put out up to 10psi. I keep it at around 7-8. I had to fab up the brackets and drive system. I also use a rising rate FPR and a reprogrammed chip. The only drawback with this system is that you cannot run a flat deck or even a ducktail because the supercharger sticks up, but I'm even working on a new mounting location. It may not be possible with the Paxton but I'm going to try.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1125682449.jpg

I'm very happy with the decision to go with a 3.6 (which I made way back in 2000). I drive a lot of 911s in the course of instructing, and there seems to be a real tipping point between the feel of the 3.2's and other earlier motors, on the one hand, and the air-cooled 3.6 on the other. Especially in a lightweight, early car, it just goes like stink.

Which isn't to say a turbocharged or supercharged motor won't snap my neck with more authority. But for the kind of driving I do -- track and occasional canyon hooliganism -- I've never felt the need to add more power.

(Try to find a Turbo owner who will say that. ;) )

And in fairness, I've seen some 3.2-powered cars that are awesome on a track.

jack what kind of oil cooler do you run? i have a front mount one in mine behind the iroc bumper but i like the cleaner look of your bumper betterhttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1279598003.jpg

My 3.6 is basically stock with a NBD chip....bullet proof and stock. I like it that way. Just under 300 hp and it's enough for me.....
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1279602946.jpg

I must admit, there is a good deal of truth in this. My motor is actually apart right now, having the heads reworked with a set of 20/21 web cams and a few other mods in the never ending search for more hp.....It must stem from my drag racing days. :)
BB2 looking good as usual, BTW.

Or just take your 3.0 and build one of these!
:D

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1279638421.jpg

Haha, thats right Gary... I would love to do that if I had a dedicated track car. There is something to be said on the shorter stroke of the 3.0 vs the 3.6

Keeping it street legal over here, which in CA isn't the easiest thing to do.

That's going to be a street car here in CT but it's not subject to yearly emissions inspection.. :D

I've got a Carrera cooler in the passenger fender and a Turbatrol in the driver fender. I like the S style bumper, so I couldn't put one in the center.

As far as the 3.2 vs 3.6 goes, I twin plugged my 84 3.2, 964 cams, 10.3 Mahle pistons etc. I managed to brake that in less than a year. I sold the 3.2 parts and did a 964 3.6 conversion. The difference is amazing. Do not consider a 3.2. You can do a 3.6 for similar money. I did keep 915 tranny but added the one piece retainer and regeared and added a Quaife (the car spinns real easy without one). That was about 8 years ago. Hundreds of track days and no problems. Go for the 3.6. I just installed a 95 engine in a 72 for a friend. He loves it.

I did a 3.6 into an 80 SC about 6 yrs ago. Yes it,s fast but It,s loud and takes extra effort to add working AC and heat. The clutch also remains very stiff. I had a knee injury a couple years ago and stopped driving it. My wife wouldn,t even consider driving it. I just sold it and bought a 993 for about $5000 extra. We both like it and my wife will drive it; and in it, without complaint. I would sell your SC and buy a 964 or 993. If the SC need an engine then buy a used 3.0 and then sell it.The stock car is also easier to sell than trying to get your money out of a conversion.

+1 you'll never get your money out of a conversion. Once you do this you better be burried in it.

The only 911 I ever got my money back on was bone stock.