just found out this forum.

[Jordan]

Hey, guys. I am about to buy a 2000 911 Turbo S. But my friends told me it's AWD and it's no good?

then I should go with a 911 turbo?

any comments about the turbo s? is it really not that good compare to 911 turbo? only thing I know is it's a AWD.

So, please give some advise.

Thanks.

[J-RAD]

Far be it from me to know "every" model that Porsche has produced but I don't think there is any such thing as a 2000 Porsche 911 Turbo S! So, I don't know what you are considering. The "2001" Porsche Turbo is indeed AWD. 'S' models are special limited edition models produced by Porsche and IMO are always more desirable than a "standard" model. The last "911" Turbo S that I know of was produced in 1997 and, quite frankly, is a dream car for most. You may want to do a little more research on the cars (not intended to be a condesending remark). Anyone else disagree???

[Jordan]

Sorry, I think I made a mistake, but honestly I don't know nothing about it, I just decided to go with a Porsche 911 turbo. I got the info from a friend who is selling cars. He told me: "it's a 2001 Porsche 911 turbo S" because I've heard zillion times of the term "911 turbo" but I don't know much about the minor differnces, well, now guess it makes BIG differences.

So, you mean there's just one version called "Turbo S" (I made mistake about the year tho)

Thanks for the input.

[Yargk]

Wasn't the newest turbo, new for 2001? Anyway, Jordan, there have been a line of turbo models since 1976. During this time the car went through a few revisions. Some of these revisions had Turbo S versions, some did not. For instance the first generation of turbos (1976-1977) did not have an "s" model, however there was an S model in 92 and 97. The 92 "s" was different from the 97 "s" because the turbo was revised in 95 so the 97 "s" was based on the turbo that was new back then. There are no "s" versions of the 2001 turbo, although they might make one. I think that they may not produce an "s" because they are also producing the GT-2. Although in the last generation of turbos they had a standard turbo, an "s", and a GT-2, that GT-2 was a special production run, the new GT-2 is standard production I think. The GT-2 is basically a turbo, except that it weighs less, is just two wheel drive, has more power, better brakes, and a different suspension.

The 2001 turbo does just fine with AWD. It is incredibly fast around a racetrack even when you're not driving the heck out of it. However, if you want rear wheel drive only, get a GT-2.

There is one other option. A company known as Ruf has a new model called the Turbo R. This is the Ruf name for a modified Porsche Turbo. It can be ordered in rear wheel drive and makes even more power than a GT-2.

Correction: The Ruf Turbo R based off the 2001 turbo is really called the R Turbo.

A 993 Turbo S isn't really anything more than a stock 993 Turbo with some factory added extras. Those extras, including the 430 hp and 450 hp engines, were available as options for the normal 993 Turbos as well and therefore it's possible to find a normal looking 993 Turbo with for example 430 hp.

The 1992 964 Turbo S was rear wheel drive and more independant compared to the 964 Turbo 3.6 than the above 993 Turbo/Turbo S.

There is no 2001 Turbo S as far as I know. If you want rear wheel drive go for a 996 GT2 as shown here:
http://www.auto-salon-singen.de/porsche_996gt2_si_sw_2001_2501_03.htm

Here's a "normal" 996 Turbo:
http://www.auto-salon-singen.de/porsche_996_turbo_silber_sw.htm

Here's a 993 Turbo S:
http://www.auto-salon-singen.de/Porsche_993_Turbo_S_bl.htm

Here's a 993 Turbo (and it's silver with black leather interior - my ultimate dreamcar)
http://www.auto-salon-singen.de/Porsche_993turbo_silber_sw.htm

Hope this helps a bit

[Leland Pate]

Rstoll...
Before you E V E N accuse me...


I had nothing to do with this one...

[rstoll]

You certainly read my mind!

[Jordan]

Well, It must be some mistakes. Anyway, I will give my friend a call about it.

I did some search on the internet, it seems that there's no turbo S in 2001. But you know what, I did see the car and it seemed to be the newest 911 from Porsche and it did say "Turbo S" at the back.
You guys think that mighbe with with some modification on the body?

another question is: is the AWD 911 turbo more desirable or not at all?

I'd like to get a GT2 cuz it's rwd, but I can get a good rate on this car that my friends having. so....

Thanks for any comments

[Yargk]

Originally posted by Jordan


another question is: is the AWD 911 turbo more desirable or not at all?

I'd like to get a GT2 cuz it's rwd, but I can get a good rate on this car that my friends having. so....

Thanks for any comments

Jordan, it's personal taste. The AWD 911 turbo is easier to drive than the RWD GT-2. I prefer RWD, although I can't honestly say I've driven the new 911 turbo or a GT-2. I think you need to get some seat time in some of these cars so you can decide for yourself. If you start leaning toward the GT-2, seriously take a look at the Ruf R turbo. They both have base prices of 185000 USD. However, you can go overboard with the R Turbo because there are so many options you can order from Ruf. For reference though, 2001 991 turbo : 420 hp, GT-2: 456 hp, Ruf R turbo: 520 HP

[speeder]

Let me get this straight- this gentleman is not familiar w/ Porsches, and you guys are suggesting a GT-2 or RUF turbo-R? Did I just drop some acid, or is this what I'm reading?

Jordan, there is no 2001 "turbo S". If car is normal 2001 turbo, I have a couple of questions for you; besides "good rate", are you looking for a 190mph+ vehicle that accelerates 0-60mph in approx. 4 sec.? Do you agree that all-wheel drive would be a safety advantage in such a vehicle, especially for someone who is not a formula one driver? This is what Porsche thinks. All-wheel drive system on these cars has no down side for street driving and enourmous safety advantages on a car this powerful.

Also Mikkel and other europeans, info concerning "options" of 430 and 450hp versions of 993tt applies only to europe and therefore would be incorrect and irrelevant to most readers of this board. In the U.S. we get one version of european cars, but it is usually the good one. We got the "normal" 993tt and turbo "S" model w/ 424hp and bodywork, etc.

[Jordan]

Speeder: Well, I agree with that AWD offers more safety advantage. But I guess driving a RWD would be more fun tho. Well, I mighbe completely personal pref.

I decided to buy one because I've always been wanting one and now my friend has one. It had a salvage title on it, but that was just body damages, nothing major. Just like I said, I did see the badge "Turbo S " at the back.

I am going to call my friend again on Mon. and go see the car again. I was just like " nice car" and walked away.

I am no rush on this, I probly will have some seat time b4 I buy one.

one more question, when I go check it, what are the things I should pay more attention?

Thanks guys.

[speeder]

Just want to correct myself on something from my last post. I know that a large number of our members are outside of U.S., and for all I know Jordan is in Europe. Just think that everyone should be aware of differences in the way that Porsche, and other makers, market and sell their cars here and over there. This causes a lot of inaccurate info that I see on this otherwise excellent board. For someone in the know it's not a problem, but for new people it might be. My .02.

Also, Jordan, the AWD system on new 911's is not like something found on a Jeep Cherokee. It is a relatively light-weight system with a torque-split of anywhere from 70-100% of power and torque going to rear wheels, depending on traction/wheel-spin. Unless you are truly a world-class driver, you will lap faster on track w/ AWD version then GT-2. If you happen to be in L.A., GT-2 has more curb-appeal in front of cafes on Sunset Plaza where normal new turbos are kind of "a dime a dozen".

[emcon5]

Originally posted by Jordan
It had a salvage title on it, but that was just body damages, nothing major.

Sorry, but "Salvage Title" and "nothing major" are mutually exclusive. You can't have one with the other, particularly on a US$100,000+ car. If it has a salvage title, it would have cost more for the insurance company to fix than the car is worth.

Think about that......

Tom

[pwd72s]

Is this a SCWDP financing operation?

[RarlyL8]

Good grief. You guys sure fell for this one.

I wanna buy a salvaged '00 Turbo-S but don't know anything about Porsches.

OK, why don't I just sell you mine. It's a VERY special "Super Carrera" with all the wings and fairs, special "secret" engine. Does 0-100 in 8.2 seconds and holds the track record at Willow Springs.
All yours for less than the $100,000+ that a new Turbo will set you back.

[Joe Bob]

Geeeezzzz, if the weenie would post where he is from in his profile, then we would give him a break if he did not speak English as a first language. Otherwise stupid questions are fair game......

April first has come early it looks like.....

[Jordan]

Well, I am in Canada.

the car has the salvage title but it ran well, just the body damages. Well, at least that's what I was told.

I don't think there's nothing wrong with buying one w/out knowing too much. I've said I am in no rush situation, that's why I came to the board and ask you guys questions before I pay for it.

anyway, I think maybe I should do some research of it myself.

Thanks for the input tho.

[dtw]

Alright, if no one else will- I'm going to go ahead and say it: TROLL!

And if this isn't a troll: stay away from salvage title cars. Don't make me drop some of my stories on your ass. I've got a million of 'em. They all have unhappy endings. Find another car. Search our archives and find out what "PPI" (not "SSI") means. 'Nuff sed.

-d

[MBuck951]

I think I've seen a few pictures of this car you're looking at. It is not a "turbo S", there is no "turbo S" 996. The red "S" the PO stuck on it is just tasteless and anybody who has a brain knows the guy was/is an idiot for doing it.

I believe links to pics are somewhere in www.supraforums.com I'll have to go check.

The car is more than a little messed up, I'd steer clear. That thing was a POS, IMHO.

[Jordan]

Well, I don't know. the last time I saw it, it was in good condition, but I heard it has the salvage title.

I think I will go check again.

Maybe the same one?