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rennch 09-27-2011 12:17 AM

Good to see you back, lars.

speedo 09-29-2011 06:36 PM

So if you like fog or running lights...
 
What could be better than two fog lights on an early bumper?
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1317345275.jpg
Exactly! Four lights are way better. So rather than just surface mounting them, I am going to recess them just like the original cutouts:D
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1317345602.jpg
Wait...the holes are way too big, and a little off center:eek:
Just kidding.
I should back up...for starters, I am not a fan of foglights. Just something else low to the ground that is bound to get "taken out" by a rock. I do however like foglight openings for directing air to oil coolers. As this car will end up with a "built" 2.2, I will not run a front fender cooler. I already had a "cheesecloth" front bumper that was going to require a lot of work...ugh.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1317346049.jpg
I picked up a better bumper recently at a local swap meet. I stripped the hardware off of it and determined that while it was better...it was not great.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1317346175.jpg
The worst problem appears to be the foglight holes which are somewhat "jacked".
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1317346280.jpg
The end supports are also in need of attention
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1317346432.jpg
Yeah, it would be easier to just buy a good solid bumper and bolt it up. I'm just not that way for some reason...besides those foglight openings bug me. I have plans on those...

speedo 09-29-2011 06:49 PM

Mission anti-foglights begins
 
The brackets for the fogs has already been hacked out on both sides. I will clean up the remainder of the brackets and flatten out the flange
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1317346800.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1317346832.jpg
This is where I steal the solid steel from the old perforated bumper
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1317346988.jpg
Shaped and being fitted to the flattened flange
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1317347045.jpg
Ready to tack in place
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1317347105.jpg
And there we go. I'm kinda psyched...I have wanted to do this for a while. Not sure if there was ever a factory non-foglight bumper. Lots of fiberglass choices, but steel? And pretty much done ready for the flapper when and some finishing.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1317347258.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1317347287.jpg
These need to go on next.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1317347344.jpg

speedo 09-29-2011 07:02 PM

t-bar turmoil
 
This was a bear...t-bar married the adjuster end. Inseparable to say the least.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1317347666.jpg
I soaked it for many days. And in the evenings...tapped gently, then harder as days passed.
Finally I was pounding on this, with zero luck.
I drilled a hole in the cap and soaked with penetrating fluid from the inside of the cap.
I took a punch and tried to hammer it out.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1317347832.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1317347872.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1317347906.jpg
No movement at all. I didn't get (too) discouraged. Few more days of soak and pound...voila!
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1317347984.jpg
Patience and pesistence pays off. Splines actually didn't look rusty at all:confused:
So welded up the end, and away we go
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1317348069.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1317348093.jpg

Last call for CAD plating...heading to sandblasters tomorrow. Josh?

mikeferg75 09-30-2011 08:30 AM

Nice work as always Lars.

You coming out to coffee tomorrow? SmileWavy

speedo 10-06-2011 08:47 PM

The never ending... what can I do before paint
 
So I am rolling the dice and going back to a good painter...who had some personal issues. Hey, my call. If it works out great...if not, I have no one to blame. He will be given 4-5 weeks to get the job done. Plenty of time for me to rebuild the stock 2.2 and add some secret sauce. My long list of what can be done pre-paint has gotten shorter...vs what needs to be done. I absolutely hated scrubbing the rear inner fenders to prep for paint. Yuch! Forty years of oil grime and road debris. And it is so close quarters it has to be done by hand. If the car was on a rotisserie, and the quarter panels were off the car...it would be easier. Still the job sucks. I had some issues getting the rear torsion bars loose, and I wasn't going to undercoat around the spring plates. It all needs to come clean to do a good job.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1317958578.jpg
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Finally released the tbars and cleaned the rear inner fenders well.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1317958756.jpg
Several hours of scrubbing and I am ready to shutz the inner fenders.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1317959054.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1317959083.jpg
Just remember to cover the bushing cavity and fill the bolt holes...don't want to go back and clean the shutz out .
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1317959164.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1317959212.jpg

speedo 10-06-2011 09:07 PM

Ready set shutz
 
I am sooo glad I bought the gun. Makes life much easier than the rattle can and water cleanup...what could be easier. Well if you are in the inner fender well in addition to a respirator...and have hair on your head, wear a hat. Ask me how I know. I now have "undercoating shutz dreads". So this is how we end up...very clean.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1317959449.jpg
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Looks pretty good for 40+ years old.
I needed to decide what to do with brakes...cleaning them up I mean. It was suggested that trying to break them apart to sandblast or dip would potentially break the through bolts. I wanted to clean the calipers and either powdercoat them aluminum, (or some other non-descript color) or plate them. Decided to completely dissassemble them amd dip them to clean with the rest of the parts I am having zinc plated. They were nasty...and although they will go right back underneath the car...everything deserves a shower once every forty years.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1317959907.jpg
Ripped apart an old inner tube to create the sleeve I needed to blow the pistons out...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1317960059.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1317960090.jpg

speedo 10-06-2011 09:14 PM

And a little further...
 
Piece of cake...everything came apart easily.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1317960252.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1317960278.jpg
The bodies will get acid dipped, cleaned and zinc coated. Hardware will get refreshed black, the internals will be resealed...and shortly these will be installed with fresh bushings.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1317960326.jpg
And we are off to paint:D Wait what color are we painting this beast:eek:
I really am in a paint quandry...OEM Gemini Blue metallic. black, or red. Never used one...but maybe a poll would be in order. I can go black or tan on the interior. Truth be told...my uphosterer is so slow, I could change the interior color tomorrow and he wouldn't be upset.
Really...the last call for plating. My box goes in to be dipped tomorrow. Some of what comes out gets powder coated, most gets zinc plated.

Speedo

millarg 10-07-2011 04:48 AM

Great project, looking forward to seeing the progress

speedo 10-10-2011 06:46 PM

Hurry up and wait show...
 
I should know by now to get the stuff done (over which I have no control) before I am ready to move on...plating for example. Should have been done long ago. Now, I have to wait to bolt the suspension back on to make it a roller for painting, and I can't do that until the parts are back from plating. My excuse is that I kept getting deeper into the disassembly....and the further I got, the more parts I decided I should get "renewed". Some of that is good, especially when you find worn parts that REALLY need replacing (and otherwise might have not found during a "cosmetic" resto)...but more often than not, it becomes a fetish. Just need to remember, we're dealing with the underside of the car. It is only going to look nice once...and after that even though it is maintained, it will only get nastier with time. So...in the interim, I get to clean 40 years of road grime and debris off the suspension. Thought I was done when I finished the inner fenders...heck, I still have plenty of laquer thinner, time to go to work. These look pretty knarly.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1318296329.jpg
broken e-cable guides need to be replaced
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1318296375.jpg
I'll remove the stub axles to really get-in-there
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1318296441.jpg
I will go after these guys too. Start with a putty knife and work my way down to sandpaper before repainting
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1318296547.jpg
Better part of a day...and several coats of paint. We're back in black...and white.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1318296684.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1318296736.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1318296772.jpg
So this is weird. Steering damper on a LWB car.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1318296840.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1318296873.jpg
I learned through a local friend that these were common on SWB cars from 1965-?? But these early racks were considerably different that the LWB racks. And guess who made the damper? Koni of course. Well as I don't need the SWB rack, it will need to find an owner that does need a rack with a damper. Whoever had the car prior to me, obviously liked the SWB components...steering rack, complete front 3 bolt suspension...not sure what else I will find. Good thing I did remove the rack though, as the cloth covered fuel lines from the tunnel to the tank fittings dissolved in my hands. I need to source a later SC rack and u-joint.
To close out the Sunday afternoon, I cleaned up the aft end of the tunnel and everything that comes out towards the rear...throttle cable, clutch cable, e-brake lines, brake lines, heater valve lines, tired fuel lines and the larger cloth covered lines to the charcoal cannister up front.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1318297482.jpg
I am tired of cleaning. I want some nice hardware to begin bolting things back together. Next up is restoring/rehabilitating the fuel tank.

Speedo

speedo 10-22-2011 05:17 PM

Hurry up and wait show II
 
;)Picked up the parts from the acid dipper. Should pass muster at the plater. Rule of thumb for Frank (6'5" 250lbs Italian with a long ponytail) the foreman dude, is no paint, grease, undercoating or flaking rust. Slight oxcidation ok. You don't want to make frank angry. We dropped the parts off a week ago and expected them to be done yesterday to be available for bolting the suspension on this weekend...didn't happen. Told that he "takes care of his regular customers first". No problem. That must mean that industrial business in Denver is picking up...it will help the economy. I'm ok with that. Well, I still can't bolt the suspension on without the plated hardware, so I need to find other small jobs to do...gotta keep the momentum up. Front bumper still needed help. Outer attach points were rotten. I stole solid mounts from the "cheesy" bumper. Rusty mounts were ground off
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1319328116.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1319328148.jpg
Trimmed old mounts are fitted
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1319328227.jpg
And married up
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1319328505.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1319328533.jpg
Front bumper is pretty much ready for paint guy...like the chassis.
After getting these back from the dip, I realized that their useful life as front A-arm covers/ toe brackets had been somewhat compromised by their alterior life as skid plates protecting the front bumper from unfortunate driveway/street angles. Not paper thin...but getting close
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1319328789.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1319328818.jpg
Yikes...these are not too expensive to replace, but the rest of the cover is in decent shape. We can make these a bit more robust.
Yeah...the welding is all done...it is... except for this:D

speedo 10-22-2011 05:40 PM

So we can add some material
 
Or a lot of material. The tank is full and I just put a new spool of wire on the welder.
It can't be any worse than this
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1319329165.jpg
Build them up
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1319329200.jpg
And take them down...much more substantial
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1319329244.jpg
Now they get degreased and painted.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1319329319.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1319329347.jpg
I have new brake lines ready to install, and since the steering rack is waiting for plated hardware :( ..."while were in there"...lets rip apart the master cylinder.
Most master cylinders I have evaluated were spotless. No debris inside whatsoever. I have heard however that the "old school" method of bleading the brakes with two people...one pumping the pedal and the other releasing the air bubbles from the bleed valve on the caliper can cause debris to build up in the chambers in the master cylinder. Well, I guess we will find out. Dirty and nasty as usual.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1319329688.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1319329744.jpg

speedo 10-22-2011 05:54 PM

Clean them up
 
Everyting came apart easily and surprise...there was a lot of crap inside. Hmmm, older brake fluid, or just somehow debris got into the system. I see no signs of oxcidation inside the master cylinder...but there was some silicone looking stuff, not good. I can only think how chunks of silicone in my hydraulic brake system would help :eek:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1319330640.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1319329949.jpg
I will clean degrease and paint the master cylinder. The parts will be renewed and probably just clear coated, and the cylinder rebuilt. A start...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1319330267.jpg
Based on the amount of nastyness in the master cylinder, I'm not unhappy that I tore it down. Surprise to find material in there.
Meanwhile, in anticipation of getting all the plated parts back...been prepping the caliper hardware for reassembly. Had planned on reusing the stock 19-23mm tbars, but may bump up to 21-25mm. Car will only be driven...no track, so no need for anything more robust. If we get back from autocross tomorrow in time, I will start on the gas tank resto. I have had all the "chemicals " for a while...just wasn't looking forward to the prep. I think I will spend some time refamiliarizing myself with the wire brush on the grinder.

Speedo

speedo 10-25-2011 07:03 PM

The good, the bad and the ugly
 
Picked up the parts at the plater today. Took too long, cost more than it should have and I was disappointed that they couldn't do my calipers. Said they ran them twice, but because they were cast...the acid from the dipping seeped out and didn't allow the zinc to "take". Whatever, I'm not a metalurgist. I was told to take them and get them sandblasted and bring them back. Great. Square one. I called the shop that dipped them while I was headed home, and the owner said to bring them by...so I detoured over to Golden. The owner of the shop personally grabbed a caliper and we headed to his blasting box. First one cleaned up well...he asked if I could wait while we did all 8 pieces...why not. Twenty minutes later I was on my way home with all the calipers "refreshed" again. Kudos to A1 Stripping in Golden for you Colorado guys. Nice guy, fair prices and didn't charge me to sandblast the calipers ...while I waited! So back to the shop with the goods. Plating is always exciting...hey, I live in the mountains, doesn't take much to excite at elevation :D
So the good/goods...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1319593645.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1319593695.jpg
The bad...soon to get better
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1319593737.jpg
And the ugly. While in Denver today I had to pick up some custom fuel line from a local shop. They have a 6 ft tall front loading degreaser/dishwasher. The trannie from this car (911) turns out to be the correct type number for an S (911/01) but it was discusting. Layers of grime, crap, oil (maybe that is the same as crap), asphalt, and God knows what else...maybe tree sap. I have a 3000 psi power washer that barely loosened any of the hardened black shell covering the trannie. The shop let me soak the trannie for an hour while I ran errands. This is what it looks like after being power washed, and then steam cleaned for an hour! I still need to go after this thing with carb cleaner or oil eating microbes...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1319594211.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1319594254.jpg
Ok...now I really need to get the suspension back on this beast. The painter is coming up for a pre-paint "evaluation" this weekend. With a bit of luck I could be at the painter by Halloween. I promised myself I would finish the gas tank before starting on the engine.

Speedo

arrivederci 10-25-2011 08:04 PM

Mmmmm. Plating looks nice. Shiny pieces...

speedo 10-30-2011 07:00 PM

Front suspension pretty much done...
 
Plating is done and I need to get this thing rolling. No excuses now. Starting with the front...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1320025695.jpg
I blew the hard fuel lines out in the tunnel and connected the new 7 and 9mm lines as they are tough to get to without any crap in the way. Also known as a real pain to run when the crossmember and steering rack are bolted up. I cleaned up the SC rack and crossmember. Poor mans bump-steer kit.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1320025933.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1320026047.jpg
The struts and Aarms are ready to go. I will use the later sway bars as the SC suspension came with them.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1320026232.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1320026330.jpg
It is a little bit of a juggle to get the sway bars into the struts...but much easier than adding them after the fact.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1320026430.jpg

speedo 10-30-2011 07:16 PM

More up front...
 
With both struts off, the sway bar mounts much easier.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1320026663.jpg
Front Aarm mounts painted and ready to go with nice fresh hardware
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1320026860.jpg
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Button up the sway bar brackets...lot going on under here
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1320027135.jpg

Getting closerhttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1320027277.jpg
Topside needs to be protected when it gets paint, but needs to be installed to make it a roller
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1320027355.jpg

speedo 10-30-2011 07:25 PM

And pretty much done
 
Tie rods installed and secured. Everything fresh looks good
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1320027486.jpg
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I need to get the calipers finished, and install the dust shields and hubs up front.
The rears will be somewhat easier...but I will have to deal with the tbar replacement and associated springplate adjustment. Going with 21-25mm bars.

Speedo

CWeber911 11-06-2011 08:45 AM

SWT Bows
 
Did you end up making a spare set of bows?

Cal W
cweber911@cox.net

Macroni 11-06-2011 10:09 AM

wow busy boy......

speedo 11-06-2011 06:36 PM

I don't need the calipers to get the car to paint...
 
But I do need the torsion bar covers. They were plated but not to my specs. Shop wants to see them to see if it was their fault. How could it not be their fault. I paid them to plate them and the result could be better. Can't see how it is my fault. I could be too anal...yeah that could be the problem. After i/we the shop determine the cause of the problem, my guess is the plated stuff (and there are more pieces) that could have been better will need to be sandblasted again. As I have more plating to push through...me thinks I just suck it up and sandblast everything that took a bad plate, along with the new batch and get it ready for plating round 2.
The front suspension needs dust guards, bearings and hubs...brakes will be added after paint. I only need the e-brake for paint.
Here we go...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1320633037.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1320633066.jpg
Mmmm...fresh vented rotors
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Installled with the new dust shields
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Front is done...long time coming.

speedo 11-06-2011 06:58 PM

On to the rear...
 
The control arms were "renewed" a while back and have been waiting. I jhad wanted to have the spring plates (adjustable) and torsion bar covers all ready to bolt up together. As the spring plates are ready, but the covers are not...I was hesitating addressing the rear suspension altogether. Whatever...I can at least put everything that is ready on the car. Stub axles are nasty...pounds of crud
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1320633725.jpg
Much lighter
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Control arms installed with new e-brake cable guides, and fresh dust guards
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1320633983.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1320634013.jpg
Clean refreshed hardware always looks nice
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http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1320634106.jpg
And these will have to wait till the torsion bar covers come back from the "cleaners"
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1320634188.jpg
E-brakes all adjusted...old shoes still have plenty of meat.
This car should be running a 911 trannie. Turns out that it had a 911/01 trannie which I will need down the road for my 2.0 S engine and the 69 S chassis I have yet to acquire. I am instead going to swap out the "push" clutch cable and instead run a "pull" 901 cable and trannie. Updates later this week...Looking for front 21 t-bars.

Speedo

speedo 11-16-2011 07:34 PM

Couldn't wait...
 
Last go-round with the plater left me with spring plate-torsion bar covers that weren't up to snuff...whatever that means. They are going to do a batch of clear zinc parts for me, and agreed to run the covers through again. I am not a big "player" in their world, so my stuff gets bumped when a bigger better order comes in. I understand, and am ok with that. It is a weird world with a questinable economy and companies need to take care of their better clients first. I decided to go ahead and bolt up the rear suspension to the point where I had to stop. The measured "angle of dangle" from the original spring plates (non-adjustable) was 25 degrees from level. I decided to go back with the original tbars 19mm and 23.9mm vs bumping up to 21mm and 25mm. If anything, going from a hard window to a soft window will remove a little more rigidity...said a different way...the chassis could become slightly more flexible. This will be a street car. Adding more rigid tbars to a softie is like putting ice cubes in your pockets while you walk around on a hot day outside eating an ice cream cone...what's the point. So I neutralized the adjustability on the spring plates...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1321498458.jpg
Found 25 degrees off normal
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1321498536.jpg
"Chased" the mounting bolt threads...this is important and deserves a bit of discussion. Over the years I have heard of different approaches to installing new poly bushings. I have heard of shops that "turn" the bushings down to ease installation. I personally don't agree with this. The bushings are sized for a reason. If they seem tight...they are meant to be tight. They will compress with heat and wear with time. "Turning the bushings down" to make installation easier compromises the benefit of the bushing. I use the standard bushing, a slow torque air ratchet and longer bolts. I grease the bushing and tbar cover and inner torsion bar tube liberally with lithium grease. I then position everything carefully and using the air ratchet...slowly draw the new bushing using the torsion bar cover...into the chassis. I sometimes need to swap the bolts out for shorter and shorter bolts, but when the torsion bar covers have seated the bushings...the correct OEM bolts will seat just fine. I have installed the tbars and am waiting for the covers to seat the bushings.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1321499213.jpg
Both sides waiting for the covers.
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Ok...my least favorite list of activities recently got added to it the hand scrubbing of the inner fender walls with a heavy rag and laquer thinner. Please add to that list sandblasting of small parts. I built a cabinet years ago that works well...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1321499945.jpg
But it goes slowly when you need to hold the part in one hand while you blast it with the other hand holding the gun...you go through gloves...ask me.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1321500063.jpg
Clean of rust...but dirty from sand.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1321500157.jpg
These parts are from the pedal cluster waiting to be repainted, rebushed and re-assembled.
I am meeting with the painter tomorrow to go over the car... with the tbar covers it is a roller and moveable.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1321500451.jpg
I am going to be running a 901 trannie...this spent time in a dishwasher as well as being hand-scrubbed. Way cleaner... than when I started...but still looks nasty. I will have to replace the clutch cable in the tunnel with a pull cable.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1321500847.jpg

mikeferg75 11-16-2011 08:10 PM

Lookin good! SmileWavy

Fritter 11-18-2011 07:44 AM

Love all the details you post on this thread, good stuff and good progress!!

speedo 11-19-2011 06:26 PM

The culprits...
 
These were the cause of a bummer of a delay...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1321754905.jpg
Finally got them back from the plater. That's the good news. Bad news is that the calipers got screwed up again. The plater also lost one of the caliper halves...starting to lose my patience with this plater. I explained that all the calipers were two pieces and it made no sense that I would bring them 8 pieces for them to screw up the first time...have them sandblasted and only bring 7 pieces back to get replated. While I was arguing with the large woman who swore I had only brought 7 pieces...and I was about to concede, because she was a bit loud and probably could have taken me out, a short hispanic dude came running out with the half of the caliper held up in the air all excited. Seems it never got plated, but as the other 7 pieces need to get replated...at least it found it's way back to the "herd". So I can now complete the assembly of the rear suspension. Fresh bushings get drawn into the body...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1321755534.jpg
Complete the assembly with the control arm.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1321755648.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1321755678.jpg
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While the brake calipers are still in limbo...I have a refreshed e-brake, so the rear wheels get to go back on. Can't remember how long it has been, but the "last half" of the car is now a roller. Clean fresh suspension looks nice...at least temporarily.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1321755861.jpg
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speedo 11-19-2011 06:43 PM

So...the cledal puster is next
 
Tore it all apart and bagged it a while ago. While the sandblaster was fired up, it got cleaned up.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1321756184.jpg
And painted...little too early for Christmas ornaments
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1321756288.jpg
If you place a strong magnet in the middle of all these parts....shazam a fresh pedal cluster with new bushings
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1321756557.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1321756583.jpg
Rear of the car is ready to go...I decided to stay with stock tbars, so the front 19mms are cleaned and painted and ready to go back in.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1321756683.jpg
And installed waiting for the adjuster
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1321756742.jpg
That will get installed tomorrow. Meanwhile...the newly replated latch hardware looks nice.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1321756861.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1321756887.jpg
Tomorrow she becomes a roller...need to get the painter up here to look at the car, and take it away.

Duckworth 11-19-2011 11:47 PM

"...starting to lose my patience with this plater....While I was arguing with the large woman who swore I had only brought 7 pieces...and I was about to concede, because she was a bit loud and probably could have taken me out..."


rollin'


Your restos are super. Maybe a few pics of the plating shop...?

;)

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Macroni 11-20-2011 04:05 AM

Lars.... when did you become such a neat freak......

IndyShark 11-20-2011 08:28 AM

Very cool project. Thanks for sharing!

speedo 11-20-2011 04:40 PM

Painter is supposed to come up today...
 
I would like to make this thing a roller so he can see how ready... I am. Not sure how ready he is. He shoots paint on the side. Wife just had preemie twins. Add that to a three year old and youve got grounds for desertion. We'll see if he makes it up today.
Adjusters all happy.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1321835350.jpg
And done.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1321835453.jpg
Yay...wheels on...she's a roller.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1321835527.jpg
Nice thing about going through the suspension and brakes, is you can set things up tight. Those little annoying maintenance things...like adjusting the e-brake are a piece of cake...and it is nice and tight. Someday...when I actually get my calipers back from the plater, the rest of the hardware, lines and brakes will be added. For the painter, all I need is a solid e-brake.
Boxed up the car getting optimistic about moving it to get painted.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1321835817.jpg
I will let the painter strip the doors, hood and lid. Still looking for a 69-73 rear decklid grill. SmileWavy
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Hmmm mid-day and no painter...not a good sign. Well regardless, she's ready to get loaded up. Last week I send a pair of 15x7s and a pair of deep 6 fuchs to Al Reed to get refinished. After talking with Al, I decided to go 15x7s all around. I found a local source for another pair of 15x7s yesterday, so they will head off tomorrow to join their brothers, and the pair of deep sixes will be up for sale shortly. If you need a pair, let me know.

Speedo

speedo 11-20-2011 05:11 PM

Couple of nasty chores in the interim. Unless somebody really enjoys renewing oil and
 
The gas tank came in a trade. It had been dipped, but not sealed soon enough so the inside and outside became somewhat "lightly patina'd". The inside will be done second. First round takes care of the exterior. Beautiful...eh? Usually undercoating either comes right off, or doesn't want to come off. If it really doesn't want to come off, and there is no bubbling underneath...I leave it. In this case, there was some of both. The dipping removed some that was loose, but also left some damaged undercoating that needs to be wire brushed back to good material. Before...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1321836639.jpg
During...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1321836691.jpg
And after...looks so good I hate to cover it up again with undercoating.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1321836751.jpg
Give it a couple good days to set up and I will complete the exterior.
This on the other hand is trouble.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1321836847.jpg
I went at it with a wire brush on my grinder to get down to the copper coating. Paint, oil mixed with dirt and of course asphalt...were what I was going after. Well, well. What have we here. Not just pinholes, these are perforations. I don't get how this thing held oil! Maybe the paint and asphalt and grime did a good job...I just shouldn't have removed it!
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1321837031.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1321837056.jpg
I could weld them up, or cut out the bad steel and weld in patches...or not. This is too compromised. Take off the useable stuff and move on.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1321837178.jpg

I found that I had another candidate back on the shelf...in much better condition to start with.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1321837253.jpg
A little dirty, but after some time with the pressure washer, and the wire brush, we'll be able to clean it up. After some elbow grease...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1321837374.jpg
Much better. Degrease, prep and POR 15 comes next.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1321837453.jpg
Anybody wants a free "holey" oil tank to play with let me know or it goes to recycling.

Speedo

CCM911 11-21-2011 07:15 AM

This is really impressive. Did you have the gas tank chromed, or is that the natural metal? Maybe instead of a coating, you could spray it with Clear Coat? Seems a shame to hide that nice work.

callard 11-21-2011 10:14 AM

Looks like black POR15 to me.

speedo 11-21-2011 07:43 PM

This is either trick...or boring
 
When I get plating back...sometimes the collars that locate the springs are intact, and sometimes not. This is an example of how the thin collars degrade over time.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1321932318.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1321932753.jpg
A lot of people don't realize that this collar has degraded over the last 30-40 years and can cause some alighnment latch issues.
The replacement options are 1) a complete new latch piece (OEM or aftermarket), or 2) a VW or 356 collar which comes with a replacement "kit". The 69-73 cars have two different diameter "male" shafts/catches. after making too many calls to find out that most of the repro collars are coming out of China, and you need to buy a "rebuild kit" I decided to look on my own to see if there was an alternative. Voila...the inserts for modern-day office chair casters are my choice....at least as an economical starting point.
So working with the rear latch first...I use a die grinder to recess the pin into the retainer
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1321932943.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1321932974.jpg
Done....
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1321933045.jpg
Now to short size it for the latch
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1321933092.jpg
So here are the new components..and assembled
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1321933151.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1321933216.jpg

speedo 11-21-2011 07:58 PM

and back to the front
 
The front latch assembly is a larger diameter shaft than the rear. The challenge will be to ream out the fitting to accept the larger shaft. I think there is enough material, but we will see. The vertical mill called back into action.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1321933780.jpg
This will work with the larger male shaft
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1321933844.jpg
Assembly time...let's see if everything goes back together.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1321933934.jpg
They look great and now are an alternative to simply replacing the entire mechanism due to a failed/decomposed collar.
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These were the last of the caster plugs in the local hardware store specialty bin...so I am going to hoard them. If someone needs manufacture info...I will try to help.

Speedo

DaddyGlenn 11-22-2011 03:59 AM

nicely done!

speedo 11-26-2011 05:40 PM

Interviewed new painter...
 
Not sure if he was as impressed with me as I was with him. Nice guy, but used to insurance work (aren't they all) and taping a car to paint. Didn't mind that I would bring the car to him in parts, and also didn't care that I would leave the car with him for 6 weeks to work on it at leisure. Seems like a long time, but I have a lot of stuuf to do to be ready for when the car comes back. Also allows me to monitor progress...however slow it is...and make sure each step of the way meets my approval. I feel like I am in "chore mode"...nothing really big to do, just menial somewhat boring tasks. Oil tank all cleaned back up and two good coats of POR 15.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1322357320.jpg
Hated to undercoat the gas tank, as the finish was so nice, but it needed it.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1322357436.jpg
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This turned out to be a bunyon. I gave nice sandblasted license panel to another car. Knew I had extras and this one look ok. At closer glance...some issues surfaced.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1322357772.jpg
This side appears to be the worst
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This side almost worst
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And if two license blate bracket holes ar good, then four must be twice as good.
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speedo 11-26-2011 06:18 PM

Yum...brazing and bondo
 
I learned another early body repair "trick of the trade" today...if it is rusty and perforated...don't cut out the bad steel, just braze a piece of steel behind the perforated area, and coat with bondo as needed on the outside. The combo of brazing rod and bondo neutralize the rust...it's a chemical reaction thing.
Yuck.
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This has got to go...
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Fortunately...the "almost" side is solid...rough but solid.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1322358432.jpg
Back to the drivers side. Panel is already trimmed back to good steel. I start to trim the replacement
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1322358514.jpg
Fit...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1322358546.jpg
tacked
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1322358590.jpg
welded with old mounting flange trimmed and added
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1322358645.jpg
And finished
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1322358748.jpg
The rest of the questionable areas get taken down to good steel and treated.
Tomorrow, the cleanest 901 I have ever seen...trannie that is :p

Speedo

merbesfield 11-26-2011 06:38 PM

Speedo, what type media are you using before Zinc plating? I blasted some parts prior to plating and when they came back you could clearly see the blasting texture vs. the nice smooth factory finish. My plater said I should not blast if I don't want to see that. He said he does not want grease but rust will come off when he dips in acid to remove original plating finish. Unfortunately, some of the parts were not done well and had to be redone. But they did not give me a hard time and admitted they were poor. They did want the caliper halves blasted though. The only part of plating I don't like is if they lose a part too bad. But the business is massive and I am just happy to have access. When you see the huge crates of parts they plate every day it is easy to see how stuff gets lost.


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