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47silver 09-20-2010 07:52 PM

think i found cause of 2/3k rpm surging
 
do you think this would cause it?

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1285041119.jpg

James Brown 09-20-2010 07:54 PM

maybe but I doubt it :). Was this cracked all this time?

47silver 09-20-2010 08:56 PM

dont know how long it was cracked
 
The crack was hair line, i had the dizzy out and was checking the springs etec and when i went to put it back in I noticed a nick in the cap.
I pulled on it and it cracked in half.

I did replace the wires last year so i think it was ok then. I do not remember if i put a new cap on then or not.
i have a spare so i put it on tonight and started it,, no time to adjust the timing etc
the crack was hair line and the nick i noticed was at the rim of the cap...
i think it had to be arcing at times.

T77911S 09-21-2010 04:40 AM

surging??, definately a miss.

Joe Bob 09-21-2010 06:18 AM

The crack was ONE problem. The contacts look like a zit faced teenager working in a coal mine....

47silver 09-21-2010 06:44 AM

the cap was about a year old
 
what would cause the contacts to look so bad? I replaced it about a year ago..

Wil Ferch 09-21-2010 04:33 PM

Cause for cap breakage?....possibly excessive force fitting the wires onto the cap?...and not knowing it at the time it was done?

James Brown 09-21-2010 04:50 PM

Howsit feel with a new cap? The greenish color on the cap is corrosion of the brass contacts. MSD ignition? looks like strong CDI ignition burning (normal wear).

john walker's workshop 09-21-2010 05:16 PM

i get them cracked right out of the box. always do an easy pull apart to check before using.

stlrj 09-22-2010 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by john walker's workshop (Post 5574222)
i get them cracked right out of the box. always do an easy pull apart to check before using.


JB Weld and it's as good as new!

47silver 09-22-2010 11:56 AM

runs great
 
put the spare cap, adjusted timing to 5 btdc with vacuum and the car runs great.

I am amazed that it ran at all with this cap.

I do have an msd ignition with a pertronix ignitor.

Had a bad msd in the summer.

James Brown 09-22-2010 01:39 PM

Yeah they are powerfull, just change out the cap often, there cheap.

kwikt 911 09-22-2010 03:37 PM

Looks like the contacts just need a little cleaning;)

cudabnu 09-22-2010 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwikt 911 (Post 5576062)
Looks like the contacts just need a little cleaning;)

Easier to clean, you can do 3 contacts at a time!

47silver 09-22-2010 05:14 PM

good for a twin plug 3 cylinder.
 
I timed the engine to 5 atdc but did not try it at 6000 rpm for 35 atdc. For some reason that scares the heck out of me to run it to that without a load.

Is the 5 ATDC ok or should i time it at 6000

prebordao 09-23-2010 01:11 AM

You should do it at 6000 and don't be scared, that's really the way to do it.

Superman 09-23-2010 07:17 AM

JB Weld

kwikt 911 09-23-2010 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by prebordao (Post 5576747)
You should do it at 6000 and don't be scared, that's really the way to do it.

Agree. It truly is the correct way.

47silver 09-23-2010 08:44 PM

advance was 35 at around 3700
 
went to set timing at 6k,, did not get to 6k beforefull advance. I had 35 at aroun 3700

i am missing a distributor spring,, i think that may let the advance kick in at that rpm.

Is one spring something that was done intentionally? Will full advance at 3700 hurt the engine?

kwikt 911 09-24-2010 04:58 AM

It may start pinging.


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