What glue to use on a new headliner?

[telnetmanta]

I remember seeing the post by Wayne about the nightmare of replacing the headliner. Well I have decided to give it a shot, my question is what glue should I use to hold it in place?

Ben in SC

[GIBSON]

Headliners are always held in place with contact cememt. Don't buy Elmers in a small bottle, you'll need a decent quantity. Check around for sources that will sell you a pint or quart. The trick is to known when the cement has reached it's tack stage, variable depending on weather, but people generally are in a rush, give it 15 minutes
at least. It can be pulled apart and re-set but you'd rather not have to.

Bruce Herrmann
73911S

[lsolon]

There is a reason why it so expensive to have done. I hope you have some experience in doing this because it's a bear.I tried it on my 72 and gave up after 2 hrs.
Good luck.

[island911]

I too read about Waynes nightmare of replacing the headliner. So Sunday I took the baby step of fixing the problem spots I had around the sunroof opening.
To answer your question; I used 3M contact 80. It worked well.
Aside: Home Depot and Lowes carry 3M contact 77, but don't use this. .. it states on the can (in very fine print) not to be used on headliners.

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'81 Platinum Metalic SC COUPE

[This message has been edited by island911 (edited 07-03-2001).]

[telnetmanta]

Thanks fr the help guys... I just got back from the store with some 3M 77.

Guess I will go back tomorrow to exchnge

I have the headliner up and stretched into place held with the butterfly clips. We willsee how it turns out i guess.... If i mess up its only $40 to get another one and pay someone to install it.

Ben in SC

[feelyx]

remember to fit the headliner first. I used 4 bags of clothes pins to hold it in place and then glued the edges a small section at a time.
Tim in Sac

[john walker's workshop]

as you fit the headliner, remember to push your thumbs into the spots where the visors and interior lights go, so you can get the tension right in those areas. that way you can get them wrinkle free, and won't stress the glue. i've used a hot glue gun for this job with good results, in spite of being warned against it. you have to move fast, as it sets up quickly. you need to get the bead squished down, or there will be a lump. holds real well. a little hot on the fingers occasionally.

[Eric H]

As island911 says the 3M 77 isn't the right stuff. 3M does make some glue specifically for headliners. It's called 3M Super Trim Adhesive, Part No. 051135-08091. It's more expensive but if you're going through the hassle of doing your headliner you might as well use the good stuff. I've used it and it works well. Good luck, Eric H 87 Targa

[fred cook]

I've never done a headliner in a Pcar before, but have done other types. One of the best things to remember is to start glueing in the middle and work toward the corners. Also, be sure to leave your glueing clamps in place overnight to allow plenty of drying time for the contact cement. Usually where you buy the contact cement, you can find some small metal handled disposable brushes. Get several and don't be afraid to throw one away when it gets "gooped up". Remember to have the whole job planned out, and take plenty of time. Good luck!

[Jorgeman]

The shop in Walnut Creek, CA that did my headliner used BFG Plastilock S900 Extra Strong Spray Adhesive--a spray contact cement that worked so well I bought a can for future projects. Seven years later the liner still looks 1st cabin! As I recall it was around $9 for an 18 oz.can.

George 86T

[Zendalar]

Could somebody post a picture of the "headliner" because I know the word, but don't know what it means on the car

//Zen

[Wayne 962]

Headliner is the fabric in the top inside roofs of coupes.

I use 3M Superweather Strip. Also the 3M weatherstrip in black is very good too...

Stuff dries in minutes, and is very strong...

-Wayne

[warment]

Stupid question, but should the headliner be installed with the windows out, or with the windows in? The PO of my car did a really crappy job, so I am going to pull the old headliner out before I get the car painted.

Bill

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1973 911T
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[telnetmanta]

I beleive the only way to install the headliner is without any windows installed. There just isnt any way to glue the seams otherwise. Here is a pic of my headliner job in progress, should finish it up later today.

Ben in SC

[Roland Kunz]

Hello

Just short.

Never use not approved glues on headliners as some glues will get brownish over the years and bleed trough the headliner. If you have a black one than you will not see it but on gray and white it looks......... like same player shoot again.

Grüsse