Intro with questions... stored car for 2 years bringing it back to life

[x98boardwell]

Hello,

I have been on Pelican for some time with a few other vehicles so I dont come to this forum that often (since I have never owned a normally aspirated 911) with my 87-930 and now my 04-996 TT.

I have enjoyed this forum amongst others and I know this is one of, if not the largest group of general 911 owners. So, thanks in advance for the past several years of help. Now, onto the situation.

I have a friend who owns a 1992 Carrera C2 with 13,000 miles. The car has sat for the last 2 years on blocks and the owner would like to get it running. I am looking for the basics (that actually need to happen) to get the car up and running.

I would like to make it safe to start and drive... not bring it back to brand new (which it almost is). I mainly want to start it safely to enusre we are not missing anything that is a must.

Please let me know what we need to do to make this as safe as possible. Thanks in advance for all the help. This is what I am guessing so far based on my experience. Please tell me if I am listing something that doesn't need to happen.

1) Engine oil drain and fill with new filter
2) Fuel tank drain and fill (anything else here?... only been 2 yrs)
3) Fuel Filter (replace.. also good time to see if there is any sludge)
4) Tires, look for cracking... but the car has been on blocks so hopefully no issues.
5) investigate and mouse nests to ensure no issues after start up
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Keep em coming...

Thanks,
Bryan

Here are the pictures of my past cars which have all been a blast. Now, I just have the convertible

[gtc]

If you can flush out the old fuel between the tank and the engine, that would be good.
Flush the brake fluid, make sure the calipers aren't sticking.
I would probably do the tranny fluid too.
Give all the rubber hoses a once-over to check for cracks.
Two years really isn't too bad.

[Bob Kontak]

I would spin the engine without fuel delivery to get oil pressure to register.

Purge old brake fluid.

[JJ 911SC]

[QUOTE=x98boardwell;5643874]...
4) Tires, look for cracking... but the car has been on blocks so hopefully no issues.
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Brian

Look has nothing to do with this (tires). What are the Date Code on the tires?

[Flat Six]

+1 on the brake fluid (I flush every 2 years)
+1 on the tire date codes (thanks for the pic JJ). Note that the date code sometimes appears on the inner sidewall, so might need to pull the wheels to check. BTW, the date code in this picture means this tire produced the 8th week of 2006. I think most references contend that tires with >5 years old you're asking for potential integrity issues, particularly w/a performance car.

Good luck

D

[JJ 911SC]

Originally Posted by Flat Six

... Note that the date code sometimes appears on the inner sidewall, so might need to pull the wheels to check. BTW, the date code in this picture means this tire produced the 8th week of 2006. I think most references contend that tires with >5 years old you're asking for potential integrity issues, particularly w/a performance car.

Good luck

D

D

Thanks for covering my short coming forgot to explain the code; Week/Year

Nobody like the 5 years mark but rubber has a shelf live that start right after the rubber has been cured (Cure Date) and no matter what the mileage is, the aging rubber is what is keeping you safely on the road... Not worth the gamble.

On a submarine we scrap the low pressure hose at 8 years from the cure date and 4 years from the cure date for the hight pressure one, whether their are fitted or on the shelf. keep in mind that the hoses, unlike tires, never been expose to sun light (UV) which is the killer.

JJ

[x98boardwell]

Thanks for all the replies so far. I forgot about the brake fluid.. Doh.

The crank after everything is done without fuel is also a great idea to ensure I have pressure before firing.

The tire code is key, I forgot how to read them... thanks for the pic and how to decipher.

1) Engine oil drain and fill with new filter
2) Fuel tank drain and fill (anything else here?... only been 2 yrs)
3) Fuel Filter (replace.. also good time to see if there is any sludge)
4) Tires, look for cracking... check date code on tire for age
5) investigate and mouse nests to ensure no issues after start up
6) Transmission flush (we will add swepco)
7) Brake fluid (we will do the blue DOT4 so we can tell when the old is gone.
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13) Turn over the engine without fuel.. or spark to build pressure as last step.

Anything else... keep em coming. So far, I agree with all of them

Regards,
Bryan

[x98boardwell]

In addition what is the capacity of the following and a fuel tank question.

- Capacity of transmission in 92 C2 (Do I do this the same as the 930 4-speed... one plug to drain on the bottom and the plug on the side to fill until it comes out?)
- Capacity of oil.. when doing oil and filter change out on this motor? How many quarts do I need?

- How do I drain the fuel tank.. is it just that large allen key underneath (as I remember from what my 930 looked like)? Do I need a seal to replace after I drain? part number if possible?

Thanks,
Bryan

[x98boardwell]

Can anyone else help with the additional questions above?

Thanks,
Bryan

[Drisump]

You'll probably have better luck with those questions in the 964 forum. Cheers

[x98boardwell]

Good idea.

Thanks,
Bryan

[djcdmv]

[QUOTE=JJ 911SC;5643976]

Originally Posted by x98boardwell

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4) Tires, look for cracking... but the car has been on blocks so hopefully no issues.
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Brian

Look has nothing to do with this (tires). What are the Date Code on the tires?

+1. I thought the same thing about keeping some old tires. They looked fine and only had 300 miles. Luckily my fellow Pelicans advised me to switch. When my buddy went to compress the old tires to get them off, they cracked in between the tread.

Get new tires regardless of how they "look".

[Walter_Middie]

How do I drain the fuel tank.. is it just that large allen key underneath

If there's not too much fuel in the tank, you can remove the drain plug (otherwise you may have a big fuel spill). Before you go out and buy a big Allen key, check if the wrong end of a spark plug socket fits (I know it does on several cars) and use an extension and ratchet to remove the fuel tank plug.

[89911]

2 years is not THAT long to restart a car. As long as the car has been reasonable stored and has not animal infestation, things can be minimal. I would check the oil level and make sure its full. I would replace it after it has run for a few minutes minutes so I wouldn't replace it prior to start up. If you can drain the gas , try to siphon as much as you can and replace with fresh fuel. Check the brake pedal for stiffness. Replace or recharge battery if needed. Much depends on what you are planning on doing compared to a garage doing the work. If it was my car, I would get it to the garage and then let them go over it once you got it running. You are going to need an inspection and emission anyway.

[RWebb]

Originally Posted by JJ 911SC

[for rubber] sun light (UV) [] is the killer.

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a common mis-perception - UV will certainly aggravate surface aging of tires and other rubber parts, as will O2 and O3

BUT, the rubber continues to self-vulcanize over time -- the tires will get harder and thus less safe even if stored in a dark place and in an inert gas atmosphere

you must toss them out after 5 or 6 years, no matter what

Just as you must change out the rubber brake hoses periodically, and change the brake fluid ~~2 years, no matter how many miles you drive.

[stephens_kj]

Gotta say I love the green 914 that you sold - very cool.
Your cabs obviously very nice, but I tend to ignore cars that are out of my league !