Grady at al.,

Thanks for the specific information and the notated drawing. I must admit, my experience with corrosion resistance of cars is all based on much more modern vehicles (my first project car was a 77). Frankly, as I look at this, I have no idea what parts are fragile, what are not, what can be replaced, and what is impossible to find. So cautions like that are perfect and welcome.

I must admit, that I never thought that the sealed internal cavities would be a problem. This is really the type of information I need to get more familiar with the special issues that this special car requires.

I know more now and will give it a go over for rust again. I will bring a bore scope as well, so I will see if that will get me into areas where I can't get a camera. Obviously, the sealed areas will remain sealed...

Regarding the good warning about mag chloride. I was not even aware that the "salt" for roads has changed at all (see I am learning all the time.) This car will definitely remain sheltered in the winter and will probably see more spring and fall use due to the black interior and lack of air conditioning. Will I still be accelerating the corrosion if I drive only during these seasons?

Eric

As to your original question, HELL YES it has a future!!
Great car and as many have said take your time, get it to a safe driver status and enjoy the ride bringing it back to life, there is no rush to have all done at once.
And above all you are now the caretaker of your dad's Porsche, very few out here can say that.

And as for no AC you will be surprised at how good the air flow / ventilation system is in a early car, they are very good and when it gets really hot, you can turn the vent windows fully out to scoop air into the cabin!!
My 66 is a pleasure even in the higher temps, although I don't get stuck in traffic much where I am.

Good luck, take your time do lots of reading and post lot's of questions, none are dumb.

Regards

love the color

I got under the car again today and looked specifically for rust in the areas Aaron pointed out - the wall at the back of the front wheel wells, right above the rocker panels and the rocker panels themselves. All appear solid. Really, I was looking for something to tell me that we had more work ahead of us. This is the worst I could find. this is inside the front passenger side wheel well.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1310183119.jpg

We also found a lot of the original parts. We have the original 4 chrome wheels as well as 4 forged alloy wheels. (Right now the alloys are on the front, chromes on the back. Here are the spares:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1310183342.jpg

Apparently, my dad updated the headlights, but we still have the originals. We also found spare oil filters, air filters, and a set of gaskets for the engine.

Anyway, looking at the car, we are going to get this looked at by a professional restorer and see if the car is really as solid as we think it is now. This is going to be fun! Thanks to all for their help and feedback!

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1310183643.jpg

When I was considering bringing my dads Porsche back to life, I know for me, the ratio of costs vs worth didn't really matter to me. The fact it was my dads car was what made that car priceless to me. I know that because now that I am looking for a new project Porsche, money does come into play. Shows you how much weight I put on sentimental value.

So I say do it! I am so jealous of you. The
color of the car is gorgeous! I look forward to following your story!

Really looking forward to your periodic updates on this one Roscoe... bound to be a great project. Bring it back!

As Tweezers stated, it really is somewhat sentimental. This car has been sitting still in my dad's garage for almost my whole life. Dad and I just finally decided to do something about it.

Part of the cool thing is going through the history with my dad. It is a real connection to his history. We found his paperwork including the original invoice. I have a his fuel and oil log book where he shows the first fill-up at 177 mi (I think, I do not have the book in front of me). Then there is the letter he sent to the nearest Porsche dealer chewing him out for scratching the paint. It's been fun having him remember all this with me.

What a joy reading through this thread and the comments. Looking forward to seeing this car being restored including how you and your father are enjoying its return to the highway.

Seen far worse and take your time.

Please keep us posted.

Steve Hurt

If you're looking for someone in the Milwaukee area contact Dean at Fabson AG in Cedarburg. His number is 262-376-0427.

+1 :cool:

I'll second Dean at Fabson. He and Dave did a great mechanical restoration of my RS. He is not a body restoration guy but will likely know of one in the area if you can't get the car to Aaron at Flat-Six. Aaron does it all though so hopefully you can get the car to his shop.

I look forward to watching your progress at getting your dad's old 911 back on the road.:)

That's the best part. Keep it in the family.

My Dad has a 1973 Volvo 1800ES he bought a week before I was born. Mom went to the hospital in that car. He still calls it my brother.

It needs work, and just sits in the garage, but there is never any talk about selling it....

Anyone got a SWB torsion tube? Never Mind...
 

Hi Everyone, I know I have been neglecting the thread. Part of it is that I am a little afraid of sharing too much good news.

In late July, I stopped by FlatSix and showed Aaron the pictures and discussed the car. Things seemed like a good fit and we decided to bring the car up from Milwaukee and give it a good look over.

• The torsion tube was twisted open (we expected this).
• Engine compression sucked
• All the suspension components were severely rusted and pitted.
• Everything rubber underneath the car was shot
• The braided steel brake lines my dad put in were a hack

But, the body was sound, so let's get cracking! Aaron was willing to take it on.

Aaron removed the engine and his body guy (Jason) cut the torsion tube out. Here is a neat picture.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1319954719.jpg

This shows 3 torsion tubes. The top one is from a long wheel base car. The middle one is from this car, and the lower is an unsuitable donor from a short wheel base vehicle. You can see how the mounts on the failed tube are twisted out of alignment. Also note that the LWB mounts are in the wrong place.

And why did that happen, good old fashioned rust. Water got in and rusted out the bottom. See the next picture.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1319955180.jpg

A LWB tube will not fit and, apparently, you can't get a complete SWB donor tube. Good luck. So now what?

This:

1. Cut the mounts off the LWB tube
2. Cut the mounts off a SWB tube
3. Put the SWB mounts on the LWB tube
4. Weld it all together

Next pic is the parts on a jig ready to be re-assembled.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1319955723.jpg

Got to get to bed, but next time I'll show some pictures of the car on the jig and what was found when the frame was cut open to install the new tube.

^ that's just too cool!

More pictures!!!!!!!!

Hi Eric,

Good to see you have the car at Aaron's shop. He is an excellent choice. As a matter of fact a good friend has a unique green project going on there now. I'm sure you've seen it.:)

Any way the torsion tube jig looks very cool. Never thought of that before. What are your overall plans for the 911 at Flat Six?

Hi,
Great car!
I would say from a mechanical point of view, if it was running fine the last time your dad drove it, it wouldnt take the best people here more than a couple of weeks to get this car up and running again, as far as the rust issues, well, that might be a bit more daunting.
Good luck with it, and if it were my dads, i would definately keep it!:)
Anthony.

subscrib'd. so glad youre doing this and Im watchin, learning,...please post tons of pics

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I'm in.

Me too.

Kees. SmileWavy