Can you post a pic of these?

Apparently these were nearly perfect forging dies for the centers and were discarded by the owners due to lack of interest.

the True Designs are really nice.

I went to barnes and noble today and looked through all the Porsche mags. I saw a least two or three companies offering fuchs copies. One of them supposedly forged. New and forged is the best way to go if you're gonna track the car. Zuffenhaus is one of the best looking options, but they seem to be letting people down with their several-month-long deliveries.

Zuffenhaus Wheels - 9 and 11's - Al Reed frosted finish
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1283127450.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1283642317.jpg

Same car - 17" True design wheels - same offset (tires look weird - because they are small for the rims - 235 and 275's)
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1284251250.jpg
Front wheel
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1284251261.jpg
Rear wheel
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1284251287.jpg

The Zuffenhaus wheels are awesome. You do wait a long time to get them. The wait is not the issue - custom built is like that - Keith's lack of upfrontness is. If it's going to take six to nine months to deliver, tell the customer that. People can handle it and make their own decisions based on the facts. I don't honestly think most of that is the fault of Zuf, but the cagy answers to reasonable questions and lack of accurate communication certainly is. Despite all that, for me the wait was worth it, though I only had to wait six months or so. :)

Jeremy, why did you switch to TruDesign and what width are the ones on your car? I guess you wanted to go wider than the Zuffs?

Nope - just wanted a set of track wheels in the same offset. They are made to the same dimensions.

The true designs were made from a set of 951 7's and 8's that sat in someone's garage for 20 years. They have the deeper lug holes that better clear my 993/965 brake calipers.

Jeremy, what size tires are you running on your Zuff's? Thanks, John

Thanks Jeremy. It's probably just the lighting, but I like the look of the TruDesigns better. Both very nice though. And the car is spectacular! Very nicely done!

255's and 315's on the Zuffenhaus wheels

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1290008279.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1290008288.jpg

Now the question nobody whats to ever answer on here. Can someone at least PM me and let me know even roughly what I need to budget for 9 and 11 x 17 wheels like the photos above.

pretty sure they both have prices on their websites

The ones I had on the car this past weekend.
https://www.zuffenhaus.us/cgi-bin/commerce.exe?listcategories

The track wheels that I had made from my old fuchs
True Design Wheel

The true design will be cheaper if you have a set of donor wheels.

it looks like Zuffenhaus would be between 3200 and 3700 between offset needed and finish. TruDesign says you need to call for pricing information.

I'd say that looks perfect! Love how that 315 fills the flare.

I ordered a set of Zuff. wheels on 1-24-10. I still have not recieved them. If you must have the Zuff. 17's be prepared to wait, a very long time.

That's sad... and friggin ridiculous... They simply should not accept orders, let alone take someones money. Is Kodiak still doing them? I have a request in to them for race wheels and mentioned my wait for the Fuchs they made for Zuffenhaus and have not even got a response. My advice to anyone out there is to simply go elsewhere.

I've had a few different flavors of 17" Fuchs - Zuffenhaus, Lindsay, TruDesign, and OEM Fuchs with BBS shells.

My order of preference:

1st: Zuffenhaus wheels. After genuine Fuchs (which aren't available in 17") I think Zuffenhaus wheels are the best wheels made. Expect long wait times to get them. A huge plus to the Zuff wheels are the fact the centers are brand new and proportioned for 17" wheels.

2nd: OEM Fuchs with BBS shells. I like the profile of the BBS shells. It's more Fuchs like vs Lindsay or TruDesign. It's possible to setup the wheels using hidden fasteners.

3rd: Lindsay. I wish he'd use 7" wheels as donors but he has his method and I understand that.

4th: TruDesign. Nice that he'll use 7" wheels as donors. IMO 951 7x16 centers are the best donors for TD wheels due to slightly increased clearance for brakes.

All the above are very good wheels and all the above suppliers stand behind their wheels. You really can't go wrong with any of them. 1, 2, 3, and 4 are all very similar except 2, 3, and 4 require using real Fuchs centers. Unless you buy a set of brand new Fuchs to use as donors then the centers have numerous stress cycles already, possibly 30 years worth.

If you go with 3 or 4 consider going 3-piece (bolted) instead of 2 piece (welded). This way the wheel parts are replaceable.

Zuffenhaus:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1285070934.jpg

Fuchs with BBS shells:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1251298159.jpg

TruDesign front, Lindsay rear:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1224031893.jpg

sorry for bump, but...

i would advise against the rota's; apart from blatantly ripping off established companies and contributing nothing to the industry, they are wheels made to a price after all.. and it shows:

Track Report: Rota Rims And P-cup Slicks.. - Skylines Australia
this was after six months use.

these weren't flawed from factory, the owner running the experiment with these had them xrayed when they were first fitted, and the cast was perfect:
http://www.forrestfamily.com.au/duncan/GTR/misc/rota_xray_1.JPG
http://www.forrestfamily.com.au/duncan/GTR/misc/rota_xray_0.JPG

i don't know what materials they use, but just remember the wheels keep you connected to the tarmac and shiny side up! i wouldn't risk it :D

hope that was informative.

Nice first post.

And no, it wasn't terribly informative. This is a Fuchs thread.

No, it's not a Fuchs thread at all and it was informative, though only showed the negative aspect of Rota wheels. I'm sure many run them on the street w/o issue. Only thing "Fuch's" here is the possible use of their centers in repro 17" wheels as there is no such thing (AFAIK) as 17" Fuchs.

Sorry, I thought the title, "Please explain the 17" Fuchs process" suggested it might be a Fuchs focused thread. The contents detailing the different variables such as genuine Fuchs centres, Zuffenhaus and Rota Fox, to get them and their variants in 17 inch appeared to support this.

It seemed like a post directly intent on bashing Rota wheels. That he jumps in with both feet on his first post like this seems a bit off. His example doesn't shed any light on the Fox 17s debate. I have no opinion on that and don't wish to start/continue that particular argument as there's already a thread that deals with it all too effectively. I was just concerned it seemed directed at primarily knocking the Rota (and not even the Fox) product.

Edit: I apologize if this came across as snarky, but I was in a bit of a "mood" this morning and a bit less diplomatic than I maybe should have been. Sorry 'bout that.