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levdeb 02-01-2011 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by gtc (Post 5820270)
Without flares, you'll sound like a poser if you call your car an RS clone.

It would be better to have a sleeper like Brad's black car above.

Awesome point. I guess what I really want is a 911T that looks like an RS. A clone would mean actually going full out, and I am not prepared to go that far! :eek:

Scooter 02-01-2011 08:17 AM

Check for piscean911/914 posts. He has several pics of his car here on Pelican. You can see a couple of pics of his car and COA on this page:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/223479-show-me-your-narrow-bodied-early-hot-rod-15.html#post4742256

Shaun @ Tru6 02-01-2011 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by levdeb (Post 5820099)
... that I want to make an RS clone out of my 71 911T. (The final straw was the offer of a brand new getty duck tail for less than a night out for dinner!)

what's it like being celibate? :D

Bill Verburg 02-01-2011 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Scooter (Post 5820284)
Check for piscean911/914 posts. He has several pics of his car here on Pelican. You can see a couple of pics of his car and COA on this page:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/223479-show-me-your-narrow-bodied-early-hot-rod-15.html#post4742256

yes, it was obviously added as a special wishes, you could also have speced bigger wheels but they are still not rpo items. There are all sorts of things that could be added or subtracted by special request

That does not make it a production line item

levdeb 02-01-2011 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaun 84 Targa (Post 5820289)
what's it like being celibate? :D

Thankfully, my better half is a Porsche fan too. She grew up traveling the world in the back of a 1970 911T he Dad bought new as the family car...

(OK, no jokes about my wife and her love of the back seat.... ;))

Shaun @ Tru6 02-01-2011 08:30 AM

LOL!

I say do what you want to do on the car. T's were made for having fun with, in the backseat and the front seat! I added SC flares to my 73 last fall but and keeping the flat decklid. Looks a little leaner, meaner to me.

Scooter 02-01-2011 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill Verburg (Post 5820290)
yes, it was obviously added as a special wishes, you could also have speced bigger wheels but they are still not rpo items. There are all sorts of things that could be added or subtracted by special request

That does not make it a production line item

I was not directing my post to you Bill. I am merely trying to help the OP.

For the record, I never said it was a production line item, I merely corrected your post that indicated

"Nope, but a lot of them were added afterward.

A factory ducktail only came on '73 and '74 Carrera, all of which have the wider SC/Carrera rear quarters"


which was incorrect. The ducktail was not added afterward, it was added at the factory.

I was not (and am not) trying to get into a pi$$ing match (I respect you too much for that), I was just trying to give accurate information. I've provided the OP all that I have to offer. SmileWavy

arrivederci 02-01-2011 08:45 AM

Do what you want with it and understand that it may detract from the value of it in the event you decide to sell it someday. And I wouldn't worry about SC vs RS flares. It is a subtle difference that only the most detailed eyes will pick up on.

I'd also go on to make the generalization that most RS clones are/were built to be drivers. I know if I had the coin for a real RS, I wouldn't want to be driving it regularly. So if you want RS-ness, building/buying a clone is a much more reasonable way to have that, but have it better because you can incorporate much of the modern improvements available without destroying the value of a real RS.

My '72 is on the path to RS-ness along w/ a '96 3.6L conversion.

TT Oversteer 02-01-2011 08:51 AM

Don't cut up that nice longhood. There are lots of RS clones around; it's been done to death. How about something along the lines of an aggressive "sports purposes" car and keep all the stock parts in case you change your mind later? Or just get a cheap SC or middie and cut all you want! JMHO; it's your car afterall! Have fun!

Shaun @ Tru6 02-01-2011 08:51 AM

99.92% of 911 owners don't know the difference between an SC and an RS flare.

porschenut 02-01-2011 09:39 AM

Hey Levdeb, fellow Coloradan here. Your dream car looks an awful lot like mine! If you're interested, here's the thread where I documented my RS lookalike project. Skip to the end to see the results. It's certainly not a clone...stock drivetrain and upgraded suspension, but otherwise an '86 under the skin.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/461573-carrera-backdate.html

levdeb 02-01-2011 09:56 AM

Hey Porschenut! Enjoying the -8 temp today? :)

I will check out your link now. Do you go to many Porsche events here in CO?

Thanks everyone for your input. Really appreciate it!

Going to go take pics of the parts I am going to remove and sell and create a "parts" page on my site. I am getting excited!

boba 02-01-2011 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Scooter (Post 5820319)
I was just trying to give accurate information.

Hi Scooter, just in the spirit of being accurate, the real RS in the photos you posted is Lilac not Aubergine.:D

For the OP, original profile RS flairs are available from Porsche, so no need to get SC/Carrera flairs and try to massage to shape.

It's you car so do what you want as others have said. My opinion is that the first order would be to focus on the mechanical. A cosmetic clone with 2.2T mechanicals might be less than satisfying. There is a lot of room for improvement on suspension, braking, and power without cutting the body. If you have any interest in future value, keeping all the take off stuff is worth considering.

You made some comments about limited budget, before you start do the research as to how much it will cost to do all the things you want to do. A lot of people will spend years collecting the special parts for a project, that can be fun and a rewarding project itself. Along the way you can do some of the mechanical upgrades while collecting all the bit to build your special hot rod.

RWebb 02-01-2011 10:37 AM

do the F spoiler - keep the old one as per above; see how you like it

2nd - buy an old deck lid with duck or add to the one you buy; keep the old one so you can always say "that is the original deck lid too" when you turn 84 and want to sell the car; see how you like it now

3rd - think about fender flares for the next few years while you drive the car

porschenut 02-01-2011 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by levdeb (Post 5820456)
Hey Porschenut! Enjoying the -8 temp today? :)

I will check out your link now. Do you go to many Porsche events here in CO?

Well it's 72 in my little home office so I'm just as toasty as usual today :)

My car's hibernating until April or so, but I do attend some Porsche events around town. I take it to HPR several days a year for some exercise. In the spring "the gang" will all go for a drive in the mountains once they get the sand off the roads. You'll need to have your "RS" done by then. :D

levdeb 02-01-2011 10:56 AM

Thanks all!

RWebb- the front bumper and read deck lid are not the originals. I sold those here in haste. Got a brand new unused Duck tail to put on, and already did the RS front.

Love the idea of trying this first, and adding flares in the future. We have nothing but time!

levdeb 02-01-2011 11:02 AM

Awesome. My wife and I were just invited up to Steamboat with Porsche USA for the Winter Driving Event. It was amazing driving around in Cayennes, Panameras, and Carreras on the frozen tundra...!

ginot912 02-01-2011 12:31 PM

No flares can still have fun!

RWebb 02-01-2011 12:38 PM

ok, still do the F spolier 1st for aero stability reasons

I personally like the sleek, trim look of smaller or no flares - that's why the ones on my '73 are unmolested. I like the original 911 even more...

Scooter 02-01-2011 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by boba (Post 5820488)
Hi Scooter, just in the spirit of being accurate, the real RS in the photos you posted is Lilac not Aubergine.:D

You are absolutely right. Should have known better, since the owner's Pelican name has "Lilac" in it. Stupid me. :(


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