Help Identifying Engine

[Strugs]

Anyone able to tell me what engine this is:
930.106.101.0R

It is in a 73 911T that I looked at today.

Now all I have to do is convince the wife that this is a sensible family car...hahahah...that should be fun.

Seriously, I do want to put a child's car seat in the back, but I noticed there are no lap belts. Is this easy to retrofit into the 73 model?

Thanks in advance.

[Superman]

That looks like what the used automobile industry calls a "cream puff." Very nice. I don't have answers for you except to agree that 911s make nice family cars and I doubt that rear seat belts would be difficult to install. Typically, rear seat belts are easy to find, used in good condition, cheap. For most of us, they are useless and all "track cars" have had them removed, for the most part.

[Strugs]

Well, I don't know if it is a cream puff. The picture makes it look a LITTLE better than it really is. Not that it is in bad shape - very little rust from what I could see (checked the floor pan, trunk, engine compartment, door sills, etc). 90k miles - no indication of accidents. It seems like it may have been repainted or at least resprayed, but that is the original color (matched the floor pan).
I will be taking out for a few laps next week.

[campbellcj]

Looks like a pretty cool car, although obviously that is only possible to truly judge in person.

Anyways, the cars did come equipped with rear lap belts and the hardened threaded mount points should be there. They may be "hiding" under the carpet, but reinstalling some belts should be simple.

What is apparently not-so-simple is finding child seats to fit the early 911 rear seats. There are good options for the late 993/996 cars but it's much more of a DIY crap shoot on the early cars.

My wife (pediatrician and mommy) has essentially banned our little dude from riding in the p-cars until is is much older (currently 6 months, will be in a booster seat until at least 6 years here in Calif). So it's an academic issue for me. He has nice "Eddie Bauer" seats in the SUV mommy-wagon and the S4 which is fine for now.

[kstar]

Originally posted by Strugs
Anyone able to tell me what engine this is:
930.106.101.0R

I think that is a casting number for the crankcase and my best bet is that it is at least an aluminum 3.0 case.

Regards,

Kurt

[Targa Dude]

What a Peach of a car ... your looking at Strugs. Very nice.

as for the Engine number, this number your showning seems to be a part number and not the Engine Number.

If you wondering if the Engine is the original Engine it should look like this, 6130001

6= 6 Cyl.
1= 911T
3= 1973
000X= Sequential Numbers

The V.I.N number on the Dash Plate should look somethinglike this,
911.310.0001

911=Type
3 = Last digit of year
1 = T, 2=E and a 3=S
0 =Coupe and 1 = Targa
000X is for Consecutive Chassis Numbers

I hope this makes sense, If you need to know where to look for the Engine Numbers let me know.

Good Luck.. Jorge (Targa Dude)

[Strugs]

I took the number off the top of the fan shroud. The outfit that has it for sale states that the car had a transplant to a 3.2 litre engine. However, it has what looks to me to be a 3.0 litre from an SC. It has an air pump as pictured on page 82 of the 6th edition of Frere's 911 Story. The 3.2 pictured on the same page has no air pump, and states that the motronic system does not require it.

They have paperwork on the transplant job, which I did not have time to look at today. When I go back for the t.d. next week, I will probably find that it is a 3.0, not a 3.2 (unless it is an SC engine with a piston and cylinder upgrade). This outfit also told me the car was a 73 911S model on the phone. However, the rear deck is clearly badged as a 911T. Also the VIN is 9113100401, which proves it is a T not an S.

Well, maybe I can use these 2 sources of disinformation to my advantage when it comes to negotiating a price.

Does anyone know offhand what the main differences between T and S were in 73 apart form the engine? I have the Frere bible, but sometimes it gives me a headache looking for specifics like that.

As for the children's car seat and the boss (wife), it will be an uphill battle for sure. My current car is a definite death trap, and I would never put our daughter in it, so it is up for sale (I won't mention what it is on this board, for fear of starting a major flame war, but you can see pics of it if you click the web page on my profile). My wife is pleased it is going, but I need to find a suitable replacement and an early 911 seems like it would fit the bill.

Thanks for everyone's input.

[Eric Coffey]

A few advantages that the "S" model had over the "T":

Around 50 more HP.
Sports shocks.
Aluminum S brakes.
Anti-roll bars.
6"x15" Fuchs.
Front spoiler.
Less than 2400 made (compared to almost 8700 `73 T's).
Looks cooler!

I am sure that someone here could add a lot more to this list (and correct me if I am off on anything).

Oh, and in case you were curious, the car you are looking at is an early coupe, that had the pre-CIS engine (before the swap).

[Strugs]

Thanks, Freefly!

The 50 HP is not a factor since the engine is at least a 3.0 (maybe a 3.2)
I would imagine shocks and brakes are easy to update
Roll bars - can they be retrofitted?
The car actually does sport 15" Fuchs wheels and a I would plan on an purchasing an RS front spoiler and duck tail, so that is not a problem.

Before yesterday, I was confining my search to SC's and Carreras, but after seeing this one, I am giving it some thought (especially given the asking price compared to later models).