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ruby911 04-19-2011 04:16 AM

Adding Patina to a New Crest - How?
 
I have a '68 912 with some good patina and an assortment of badges laying around that are all too shiny for the rest of the car. I can't remember the forum (here, S Registry, Rennlist, etc), but I remember reading somewhere about a process to take some of the 'new' off off a hood crest that was too shiny. Is there a chemical or mechanical process that anyone knows of that would 'age' a newer badge?

thanks - Farrell

esample 04-19-2011 05:07 AM

You might try this method. It works on nickel and chrome-plated guitar parts. Attempt at your own peril, however, because I can't guarantee the result on your badges.

Fill a container with a small amount Muriatic Acid and hang your item a few inches above the Muriatic Acid. Cover with a towel so the fumes stay inside the container. Check on it after a few minutes and then every hour or so until it is aged to your liking.

For other metals, you may want to check this website:

Patina Formulas for Brass, Bronze and Copper

Good Luck!
-e.

ruby911 04-19-2011 05:15 AM

very cool, I will give that a shot. Thanks.

tctnd 04-19-2011 07:58 AM

Why put "fauxtina" on it. In the real world car parts fail or are damaged and are replaced with new parts that then age naturally. Not being critical, but there's too much fake stuff in the world already.
regards,
Phil

ruby911 04-19-2011 08:01 AM

Because the one on the car now stands out like lipstick on a pig.

81 SC Ray 04-19-2011 10:05 AM

I have a great idea - you send me your new shiny one and I will send you my 30 year old one.... :D

ruby911 04-19-2011 10:08 AM

If yours is of the orange bar variety, then OK.:)

Mr9146 04-19-2011 08:49 PM

Put on a new one and drive the car?

That's a pretty good way to earn some patina...

:D

Geronimo '74 04-19-2011 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ruby911 (Post 5972383)
Because the one on the car now stands out like lipstick on a pig.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1303277341.jpg
;)

ruby911 04-20-2011 04:16 AM

exactly!

ruby911 04-21-2011 04:56 AM

The muriatic acid idea worked great. As esample said, just hovered my badge over a puddle of acid and covered with a blanket. It took about 30-45 minutes, but it did exactly what I was looking to do, which was knock the 'new' off of the badge. I have bought a couple of badges over the last couple of years and in both cases, I fealt they were too 'gold' looking out of the box. the acid method basically removed the gold, much like years of driving and washing would have done. Thanks for the idea.

By the way, I have a later model hood crest with red bars and 901 part # for sale if anyone is interested - $50.

kidrock 04-21-2011 10:08 AM

ruby911, you have a PM.

Stan Gillis 04-21-2011 12:56 PM

Geronimo 74

I love that pig! Thanks, It made my day.

lupin..the..3rd 04-21-2011 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ruby911 (Post 5971999)
I have a '68 912 with some good patina and an assortment of badges laying around that are all too shiny for the rest of the car. I can't remember the forum (here, S Registry, Rennlist, etc), but I remember reading somewhere about a process to take some of the 'new' off off a hood crest that was too shiny. Is there a chemical or mechanical process that anyone knows of that would 'age' a newer badge?

thanks - Farrell

angle grinder ought to do it.

66DC 01-19-2013 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ruby911 (Post 5976256)
The muriatic acid idea worked great. As esample said, just hovered my badge over a puddle of acid and covered with a blanket. It took about 30-45 minutes, but it did exactly what I was looking to do, which was knock the 'new' off of the badge. I have bought a couple of badges over the last couple of years and in both cases, I fealt they were too 'gold' looking out of the box. the acid method basically removed the gold, much like years of driving and washing would have done. Thanks for the idea.

By the way, I have a later model hood crest with red bars and 901 part # for sale if anyone is interested - $50.

This thread proves you can find just about any information you need on these forums.

I had the same "problem" with the new orange bar crest installed by the previous owner and used a salt vingear soak for an hour and then baked it at 450F for 45min. While it didn't backdate the badge 45 years, it did knock about 15 years off it, which was just what I needed.

Kaizer 03-18-2015 09:39 AM

resurrecting an old thread...

but I am hoping to see some pics! :)

before and after?

Kaizer 03-20-2015 07:50 AM

Gave this a shot of my repro orange bar crest.

I like the outcome.

Now I dont need to worry about my original orange bar crest being stolen when I park it.

You will note that the enamel stained a bit and began to slightly chip where it met the brass.

While not an exact replication of the natural oxidation/aging process, it works IMO.

On my aged "preservation" '68 912 - it looks right at home.

The "bling" of the new crest was just a bit too much on my old car.

Before:
http://www.pelicanparts.com/catalog/...ange_crest.jpg


After
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...psou03d6ov.jpg

E900 03-20-2015 09:03 AM

thats excellent. would have done the same.

jlex 03-20-2015 09:27 AM

Spraying it with full strength ammonia may have worked as well...

Kaizer 03-20-2015 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jlex (Post 8539274)
Spraying it with full strength ammonia may have worked as well...

no luck with the ammonia.

Tired that first.

Came up with my own cocktail to get the desired look...


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