69 911t

[mrm930]

Hello pelicans
I need your help. I am considering purchasing a 69 911T, Tangerine with black and orange seat inserts and orange door panels. The car was a complete restoration except for the removal of the suspension. New shocks and bushings, but the front arms were not repainted (mistake IMHO). Complete new interior, the original seats were recovered and new headliner. The original steering wheel was recovered in leather. The motor was pulled and gone through, new clutch, flywheel etc. The car has about 94,000 on it. Less than 500 miles on the renovation

The car is almost perfect. The car needs nothing - maybe a shorter throw shifter, the original is really a long throw. This car is very original and it also has the Porsche COA. I will try to get pics and attach tomorrow.

What do you think this is worth? I know the price is inflated alittle because of the renovation, so what is reasonable? I can probably get is for $39-40K.

78 930 -uber mods
10 - BMW M5
10 - Cayenne GTS

[71T]

It always comes down to rust. At this price there shouldn't be any. Has anything been done to be certain there is no rust?

It also depends on the quality of restoration. For $40k everything should be top-notch. Pictures will help.


Cool to see another car like mine in the area! Sounds like a clone of mine. Yours sounds like the nicer of two!

[ossiblue]

I agree with Colin, for that price it should be perfect. Is there photo documentation of the restoration? How was rust dealt with when found? Are there complete receipts of all work done--both body and mechanical? Who did the work? Does the car come with any history, not only of maintenance but of ownership? Is there a log book documenting the mileage? Is this being offered by a dealer?

For a T, you are in the price range of a show cars and it should not be "nearly" perfect, it should be perfect, including painting of the A-arms, IMO. Pictures will help but in restorations, it's the things you can't see that can make all the difference.

[ratpiper71T]

Do you have any pics of the car? Multicolor door panels and such if I understood you correctly sounds strange...39-40 grand, well I love my T but I don't think anyone else will love it that much...price sounds extremely high...

[mrm930]

I will post pics tonite. The car was a California "black" plate car. There was zero rust. I am test driving it tomorrow. Like I said previously- the car is near perfect. The only thing that I would have like to see is the suspension parts powder coated, but other than that - the car is really clean.

I know the guy that bought the car prior to the renovation. He is 3rd owner and I saw pics from the build. Fenders off, motor out, glass out, interior stripped, etc. The original paint was the Tangerine. Which, by the way, is a great color. If you would have said 5 years ago that I would be interested in a orange long hood (other than a RSR), I would have just ignored you. But after hanging around you guys here, I am more and more interested in the older long hoods. They just have a classic look to them.

Keep you posted.

Mark

[ErVikingo]

IMHO, those are top level prices and the interior colors sound incorrect.

I own 2 69S and a 65

[mrm930]

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[mrm930]

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So, what do you think? I know that the guy has $57K in it - including the car purchase. I don't think that there has been too many offers.

[ErVikingo]

beautiful

[calling911]

Thats WAY too much for a perfect T in my opinion.. With EXCELLENT paperwork on the motor, in this economy Id say 29k.. I bought, restored and sold a 69t.. Its a nice car but the 69 is not the hot ticket.. everyone wants a 70-72..

For this money you could have a decent S for cripes sake. Not like this, but a decent S... MIne was rust free with perfect paint.. motor needed a rebuild.. I waited a year for a buyer and it sold for $19k.. also if this is not the original color.. FORGET IT..

If you want a T.. find one like this with a questionable motor.. buy it for around 20-25k.. take a chance.. then if all goes bad.. rebuild the motor and YOU KNOW WHAT YOU HAVE for less money..

AND these pictures dont tell me jack.. this caliber a car will not tell its story in pictures.. only from 3 feet.

ORIGINAL is key.. Better damn well of a COA with matching #'s.. I wouldnt spend half that money without matching #;s... in my opinion.. its ALL ABOUT originality.

Pretty car though... I wish you luck in your search.

[Cornpanzer]

Very pretty car. Incorrect wheels (they appear to be flat-6's and should be deep 6's) Incorrect seat inserts and door panels.

Could be a really nice car, but not at that price point IMO.
A 40k T should be 100%. Resto costs are nice to tout, but dont have much bearing on final value. It costs the same to restore an S as it does a T, but you cant charge S money for a T.

[calling911]

The fit on the rear body panels appear to be superb... I will say that.. and someone actually got the hinge colors right! Most people screw that up.. they are black on the 69.

If this is a matching #'s car, and now I see the color is right per your post, AND you have SUPERB paperwork on the motor.. MAYBE $35k.. MAYBE... but WTH do I know? It WILL NEVER be an S.. dont forget that...

[calling911]

Agreed on the seats and door panels.. WRONG.. this is why you should never make a car "yours" .. lol... I think it looks horrible too.. but thats me.. Easy fix on the panels.. seats.. not so much... I might be able to live with the seats.. door panels? No way... and of course the ignition is wrong... but easy fix..

Id check the distributor! Brand needs to start with an M not a B!

Also, check to see if that mirror is a fake.. they SUCK.

[Vrod]

Originally Posted by Cornpanzer

Very pretty car. Incorrect wheels (they appear to be flat-6's and should be deep 6's) Incorrect seat inserts and door panels.

Could be a really nice car, but not at that price point IMO.
A 40k T should be 100%. Resto costs are nice to tout, but dont have much bearing on final value. It costs the same to restore an S as it does a T, but you
cant charge S money for a T.

I agree But

FWIW ~~ Deep sixes were only on the S model in that year

[calling911]

Originally Posted by Vrod

I agree But

FWIW ~~ Deep sixes were only on the S model in that year

Correct wheels on this car are steel.

Unless they were special ordered.

I could be wrong about this but I doubt it.

[Vrod]

Originally Posted by calling911

Correct wheels on this car are steel.

Unless they were special ordered.

I could be wrong about this but I doubt it.

EX cuse me . A senior moment here ! Yup , but many opted for the alloy option

[SP2]

What's wrong with the seats? Looks like the ones in my 69, except nicer, and the center panels. But I think they look nice and correct.

[Vrod]

If I have my ducks in a row , Checker fabric seats came in euro cars .
I added a set of black & white check in a 70 US S back in the day . Loved them in the cold climate I lived at the time

[calling911]

Originally Posted by SP2

What's wrong with the seats? Looks like the ones in my 69, except nicer, and the center panels. But I think they look nice and correct.

To each his own... someone will buy it and love it.

[mrm930]

Thanks for the posts. Originally I was looking for a 70-71 or a mid 80's that could be back dated and build a RSR clone. Maybe a 3.6 motor, all the typical pieces that a nice street clone would include.

Then I found this - new it was too much money for what the car is. I always wanted a 911S - never considered a T. The build is very nice. Sure it may not be exactly original. I saw pics of the interior before and it had the different color inserts, color seats and rear panels, however that may not have been stock either. The pic colors or the previous interior were off - so the exact color was hard to determine. It almost looked red - so who knows.

For the right money though, I thought that this could be a fun car. Would not have to do alot to it. Going to let the owner set for awhile and see how low he will go.

Thanks all