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Please help! Front wheel hub end cap removal
I am removing the front brake rotor but first need to remove off the front hub end cap - How do I get this thing off? Any technique would be appreciated, I've been at it for awhile and am considering cutting it off and replacing it but would rather not!
This is the cap that cover the wheel bearing lock nut. (1987 911 Carrera) Jim |
Channel locks, grip top and bottom, wiggle up and down....
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I tried with large channel locks but my dust caps would not budge. I used this method which BTW just took me a full twenty seconds to find using the search button.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/183349-removal-dust-cap-frt-wheels-bearings.html |
+1 on the muffler clamp method.
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+1 on searching first.
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+2 on the muffler clamp method. Pliers should only be used on items you want to damage.
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Cold chisel and a BFH. Takes about ten seconds. No damage to the cap.
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Weld a nut to the center of the hub. Use a slap hammer w/ appropriate size bolt......viola!
But, that was before I learned of the muffler clamp method. |
off in 10 seconds using a big blunt chisel and a hammer. chisel end in the rounded groove, angled into the rotor, hit with hammer, rotate rotor 180, repeat until it's off. no need for clamps, welding etc.
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Tried the muffler clamp method: two issues
1. 2" muffler clamps of circa 2011 do not have long enough studs to place second half on top 2. 2-1/8" u-clamp using 2" end caps produced not movement and a stripped lug bolt (ugh!) Now it needs to come off for sure! Chisel method: I don't find enough room behind the rotor to hit the chisel. Could you let me know which kind/size chisel you used? Weld nut method: i don't have the welding facility (or skills) Channel locks/vise grips: it ain't budging, not working for me. I appreciate all of the ideas but... are there any other ideas? |
Channel locks or vice grips, heat it up a bit with a torch, whack the wrench with a mallet.
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If you have a lathe handy you can make one of these.
The thin ring goes against the hub so it doesn't get scratched. Clamp in the grove using the three radial screws push cap off using the other screws. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1306204377.jpg |
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I know the pros can remove this dust cap in 10 seconds like John Walker can but I sure as hell could not with a BF chisel and a BFH while the car was on jack stands. I am sure it is a lot easier and accessible with the car on the lift. If the clamps don't work for you do as was suggested and put vice grips on it and whack away. |
Wet a rag or sock and put it in the freezer, When frozen , wrap around cap wait a few min. Then use the channel locks over the sock so it doesnt damage the cap... Done PS. cotton socks work best... LOL
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jeeze, it ain't that hard. get a hammer and a big chisel, set the chisel tip in the rounded groove of the cap, angle the chisel back toward the rotor and hit it with a hammer. it will come out a bit. then hit the opposite side. it will come out a bit, repeat until it drops on the floor. the chisel needs to be long enough to reach past the edge of the rotor or you will have trouble hitting it. hell, you could do it with a big bolt instead of a chisel.
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The only time I used the muffler clamp was the very first time I put new wheel bearings in the car. My dust cap wasn't removed for years prior to my removal and it was just stuck in place. Muffler clamp method took about 5 minutes per side after I spent a half hour with the hammer and chisel to no avail. However, after that first removal John's hammer and chisel method will get my caps off in about a minute. Here is a link to a 3 part video I had in my archives showing a guy remove the dust cap off a 944, not exact but very similar dust cap as our 911. Sometimes a visual is more helpful. Dust cap removal starts at 3:15 He is replacing the bearings and he also removed the caliper and rotor. This is how easily mine comes off now; hopefully yours will too. You might want to watch all three parts since you said you might have to replace the stud you Fuched up. SIDENOTE: His method of adjusting the wheel bearing is simple but I found it to make mine a bit too tight so I went back to the moving the washer with the screwdriver method. He is tracking the car and changes his bearings often so I think that is why he tightens them as tight as he does. YouTube - ‪How to change Porsche 944 front wheel bearings - part 1‬‏ |
I knew a guy that used to put his socks in the microwave....but for a different reason....
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