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andybullen 05-30-2011 12:33 PM

how low can you go?
 
Hey guys - I'm thinking of lowering the SC just a tad below european ride height.
I was interested in seeing how low you can go without disrupting the fine
balance between handling and looks.

On a side note, it would just be interesting to see a car that's been hammered down
as far as it can go, just for posterity's sake...... :)

rsscotty 05-30-2011 02:35 PM

Not a 911 SC but one of the lowest 964 models I've seen. Maybe it doesn't have to go up driveways.


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1306791221.jpg

jimtweet 05-30-2011 02:45 PM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1301958605.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1301958623.jpg

i actually just raised it up about a half inch to clear my driveway:(

DRACO A5OG 05-30-2011 02:50 PM

You can go about 1/2" below Euro until you will need Bump Stop Spacers to avoid the effects of bump on steering.

We recently lowered a buddies '86 down to 24" Front and 23.5" in the Rear. Whoa that was low :eek:

Caveat, you will get extreme Negative Camber up front. he is at -1.8 :eek: and completely maxed out on the camber adjustment, hitting the side wall of the strut housing. He may need to raise the fronts or relocate his spindles at $125 each.

Jim

Trackrash 05-30-2011 03:06 PM

My car is 24 rear 24 1/2 front. In order for my car to work at this level, I have raised the front spindles 22mm and installed a bumpsteer kit. I have also installed 22 and 30 mm torsions with cut down stops. With out these mods I would be bouncing off the bump stops over every crack in the pavement.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1306793019.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1306793159.jpg

mrk_d 05-30-2011 03:19 PM

http://ll.speedhunters.com/u/f/eagam...b/snap/911.jpg

DRACO A5OG 05-30-2011 03:22 PM

Wholy Smokes Batman, MARC! She is LOW :eek:

dipso 05-30-2011 03:26 PM

Here's 23 3/4" and 24 1/4" on 16"s.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1306794328.jpg

Noah930 05-30-2011 07:06 PM

Not mine, but we found out the hard way this afternoon that this is too low. For the street, at least. FG splitter lip caught a raised edge of pavement in the junction between an alley and the street and cracked.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y18...e/DSC_0038.jpg

andybullen 05-30-2011 07:38 PM

man, that thing is dumped! (blue pre 74)

andybullen 05-30-2011 07:40 PM

a little off-topic, but who makes the flares on that 934 look?

J.J. 05-30-2011 07:42 PM

my daily
http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/3267/911vm.jpg

70SC 05-31-2011 11:02 AM

I'm @ 23.5 " in the rear & 24" in front with 205's & 245's[img]http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1306864941.jpg

JeremyD 05-31-2011 11:09 AM

Mine is 23.75 and 24.5

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1283015489.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1283127472.jpg

at speed

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1305209144.jpg

I think the only way I could get lower would be to put on smaller wheels and tires.

FinallyGotOne 05-31-2011 11:10 AM

dropping it will help with the handling and as long as you have the suspension adjusted to compensate there is not really a too low point other than just real life issues. The post office here has pretty high speed bumps and I always drag on them, but I have a forgiving rubber front lip, and fibergass rockers. I had my lowered by a air cooled Porsche shop.

rsrfan 05-31-2011 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candela (Post 6052593)
a little off-topic, but who makes the flares on that 934 look?

AIR flares (old molds. the flares are 20 years old or so) Heavily massaged to look factory...

DRACO A5OG 05-31-2011 11:48 AM

70SC & JeremyD,

Any issues with the front Fender Lips, did you guys have to roll the fenders?

Also, could you guys share your front camber readings?

My buddies '86 even with Bump Spacers can only get a max positive camber of -1.8, before we tried to correct it, he was at a whopping -2.4 :eek:

I suspect a bent spindle or at a minimum relocation of the spindles even with Bump Spacers.

Jim

JeremyD 05-31-2011 11:56 AM

Mines a wide body - so not sure it would help much.

No clearance issues with 255 tires up front - although with my 235 ties and 18mm spacers on my track tires I was getting a little interference and rolled the passenger side a little

DRACO A5OG 05-31-2011 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeremyD (Post 6053520)
Mines a wide body - so not sure it would help much.

No clearance issues with 255 tires up front - although with my 235 ties and 18mm spacers on my track tires I was getting a little interference and rolled the passenger side a little

Thanks for the reply JD,

What is your front cambers set at?

Wow, even with a wide flares you get scuffed? Geez. But she looks awesome :cool:

It is painful to be beautiful ;)

ErVikingo 05-31-2011 12:47 PM

My SC is setup pretty low. Must measure though:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1306871041.jpg

My 2 liter race car is set up even lower:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1306871115.jpg


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1306871226.jpg

gtc 05-31-2011 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrk_d (Post 6052230)

That is not on the stock front suspension... I seem to recall that the whole front end was rebuilt with a tube frame.

jasonlee 05-31-2011 02:38 PM

I didn't think mine was that low, but i have to be really careful on some driveways and even speed bumps.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1306877896.jpg

LJ851 05-31-2011 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J.J. (Post 6052597)



Very nice! What are your wheel and tire specs?

J.J. 05-31-2011 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LJ851 (Post 6053819)
Very nice! What are your wheel and tire specs?

7 & 9 fuchs, 205 and 245 tyres

911Freak 05-31-2011 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J.J. (Post 6052597)

I absolutely love this 911, seriously JJ nice ride! :eek::eek:

Did you shoot this picture? Happen to have a HD version you can send me for my screen saver :D

Well done!

Edit: which blue is this?

Thanks

motogman 05-31-2011 05:35 PM

What is the measurement that is being used to characterize the ride position ( i.e. 23.5 or 24 inches)? Where is it taken?

nesslar 05-31-2011 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by motogman (Post 6054108)
What is the measurement that is being used to characterize the ride position ( i.e. 23.5 or 24 inches)? Where is it taken?

First is front, second is rear; here's 25.5 and 24.5......ground to fender lip, through the middle of the wheel:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1306889654.jpg

J.J. 05-31-2011 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 911Freak (Post 6054089)
I absolutely love this 911, seriously JJ nice ride! :eek::eek:

Did you shoot this picture? Happen to have a HD version you can send me for my screen saver :D

Well done!

Edit: which blue is this?

Thanks

prussian blue, a mate of mine took the pic, whats your email and i will email you one

nesslar 05-31-2011 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 911Freak (Post 6054089)
I absolutely love this 911, seriously JJ nice ride! :eek::eek:

Did you shoot this picture? Happen to have a HD version you can send me for my screen saver :D

Well done!

Edit: which blue is this?

Thanks

Agreed, great picture......:cool:

Swank911 05-31-2011 06:36 PM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1306892125.jpg

My '73

lfot 06-01-2011 12:28 AM

Loweredd... with 2 d's, for a double dose of the low.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1306913225.jpg

Geronimo '74 06-01-2011 02:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ErVikingo (Post 6053601)
My SC is setup pretty low. Must measure though:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1306871041.jpg

Please measure.

I'm installing the same wheels in a while.
I'd love to know your tire sizes and brand.
Height and camber measurements if you have any.

That looks awesome.
I'd love to go that low, it fills up the fender perfectly, especially the rear.

ErVikingo 06-01-2011 05:52 AM

Geronimo,

I'll check and give you the info. Here's some more shots (not the best but give you an idea). Car is parked at an incline.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1306932563.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1306932733.jpg

euro911sc 06-01-2011 06:47 AM

It is not the front lips I'm worried about ... my rear sway bar mounts are the lowest part on the car and are only 3" off the pavement... sry no pic o current car. I'm running 22/29 bars currently. I may have to raise it a little :p

gordemann 06-01-2011 08:44 AM

Here is my 1983 SC
http://i1131.photobucket.com/albums/...ann/web418.jpg
http://i1131.photobucket.com/albums/...ann/web420.jpg

Randy W 06-01-2011 09:07 AM

Anything less than 23 inches from center fender lip to ground will be too low for the street - especially if measured on the front. For a rake of 1 degree, the front lip usually measures 1/2 inch higher than the rear.

For the track you want the center of gravity as low as possible. It makes a big difference. For the street, it's not worth it.

JINKATIN 06-01-2011 09:54 AM

Damn! I thought mine was low, but they do look sweet

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1306947188.jpg

DRACO A5OG 06-01-2011 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JINKATIN (Post 6055269)
Damn! I thought mine was low, but they do look sweet

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1306947188.jpg

She looks good Brother!

JINKATIN 06-01-2011 11:15 AM

Thanks to you bro.

Ron.G 06-01-2011 11:55 AM

I knew that car looked familiar. You let my kids sit in your car for pictures.
Thanks again!http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1306954512.jpg


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