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slow&rusty 06-04-2011 03:54 AM

Slow&Rusty's 48hour Coilover Conversion \ Suspension Refresh
 
Well..I have a big weekend planned..refresh my entire front suspension, detail and convert the car to coilovers from Rebel S Racing (RSR Projects Home). I worked closely with Clint from Rebel S Racing and he was wonderful, patient and great \ honest to work with, his products speak for themselves.

The car is an '89 930 with 60K and has never had any suspension work. Car is a 100% street car that will never be tracked and the spring ratings on the coilovers were chosen to be progressive compliant and match this application. I have owned this car for 6+years and it has been (sadly) sitting for most of the past 2years, it will be driven after this project is completed hopefully this weekend...cross fingers!

The plan is keep the stock sway bars
- RSR bushings
- New rubber sway bar bushings
- New ball joints with all new OEM Lemforder wedge pins, catle nuts and lock washers
- New tie rod kit with anti-rub spacer
- New front RSR coilovers (250# Eibach with 200# Bilstein tender spring) with restored housings, reinforced (gusset plates welded) housings and revalved Bilsteins
- New rear RSR coilovers (150# Eibach Spring) on new Bilstein Rear Sport Shock
- Rennline dual bar strut brace
- Sand and paint wheel wells
- Powder coat
- New stainless fasteners
- Detail wheels

The rear RSR coilovers will be used in conjunction with the stock and re-indexed torsion bars to address the squat issues these cars have a tendency to have under hard acceleration.

The first set of pictures are the front suspension tear down from a previous weekend (you can see the tire rub on the inner fender). I had previously added the 993 Turbo brakes in the summer of 2007.

Enjoy the pics. questions, comments, feedback please add.

Wheels removed and 23years of driving, stock fender wheel wells:
http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL387.../397090399.jpg

http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL387.../397090400.jpg

http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL387.../397090402.jpg

Underside of car:
http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL387.../397090403.jpg

http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL387.../397090404.jpg

http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL387.../397090405.jpg

Front Torsion Bars coming out..easy:
http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL387.../397090406.jpg

Separating the front ball joint from the strut housing..stubborn:
http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL387.../397090407.jpg

A-Arms out, sway bar and shields:
http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL387.../397090408.jpg

slow&rusty 06-04-2011 03:55 AM

Front bushing Removal..fun with fire..and not that tough really:
http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL387.../397090409.jpg

http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL387.../397090410.jpg

Ball Joint Removal..little tricky but not bad:
http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL387.../397090411.jpg

http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL387.../397090412.jpg

$15 4x4 Hub tool from Advance Auto Parts and my Impact Gun..life saver on this step:
http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL387.../397090414.jpg

http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL387.../397090415.jpg

Sanding Down Wheels Wells and removing dirt..sweaty..wow!
http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL387.../397090416.jpg

http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL387.../397090417.jpg

http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL387.../397090418.jpg

slow&rusty 06-04-2011 03:55 AM

Primed:
http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL387.../397090419.jpg

http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL387.../397090420.jpg

http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL387.../397090421.jpg

Painted:
http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL387.../397090424.jpg

http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL387.../397090425.jpg

All the hose brackets getting ready for sanding (wire brushing) and painting
http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL387.../397090426.jpg

slow&rusty 06-04-2011 03:56 AM

Everything back from the powdercoaters:
http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL387.../397090431.jpg

http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL387.../397090433.jpg

http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL387.../397090435.jpg

http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL387.../397090436.jpg

http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL387.../397090437.jpg

http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL387.../397090438.jpg

http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL387.../397090439.jpg

http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL387.../397090440.jpg

http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL387.../397090441.jpg

NOLAsc 06-04-2011 04:00 AM

Hey. Thanks for posting. I see something of this in my future.

slow&rusty 06-04-2011 04:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NOLAsc (Post 6060733)
Hey. Thanks for posting. I see something of this in my future.

Thanks...I will be posting every few hours hopefully to update on the progress!

rsrfan 06-04-2011 09:31 AM

Outstanding Yasin. I will be converting to coilovers in the near future and will be watching with interest for any pointers you may have...

slow&rusty 06-05-2011 02:58 AM

Well yesterday's progress was not great (sadly)...had huge problems trying to remove the tie rods AND so decided to remove the rack, and then stripped the allen head bolts on the U-clamp in the Smugler's box. Hoping to use a bolt out to address that this morning and get back into it today! Looks like this project will spill over to next weekend.

Some pics of the new parts:
I painted and clear coated each hose clamp:
http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL387.../397103656.jpg

All new stainless hardware and fasteners:
http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL387.../397103655.jpg

Rennline twin bar aluminum strut brace:
http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL387.../397103653.jpg

http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL387.../397103649.jpg

http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL387.../397103643.jpg

http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL387.../397103640.jpg

Yasin

pksystems 06-05-2011 03:25 AM

Sub'd

Cairo94507 06-05-2011 05:28 AM

What a terrific project; love the pictures too. Keep up the good work.

slow&rusty 06-05-2011 07:46 AM

Got the rounded allen bolts out that secures the U-Clamp for the splined steering shaft in the Smugler's Box (yessss..sweet victory! thank-you bolt extractor!) and started reassembling the control arms (notice the rubber bung to seal the control arm end as the Torsion bars will not be going back in.

http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL387.../397106946.jpg

http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL387.../397106947.jpg

http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL387.../397106949.jpg

http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL387.../397106950.jpg

Yasin

JP911 06-05-2011 08:19 AM

Very nice, clean work. Kudos! One issue though: did you powder coat the bushing surface on the a-arms? If so, you'll likely have trouble getting the new bushings on.

slow&rusty 06-05-2011 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JP911 (Post 6062514)
Very nice, clean work. Kudos! One issue though: did you powder coat the bushing surface on the a-arms? If so, you'll likely have trouble getting the new bushings on.

JP - Yes the ends of the control arms have been powder coated and I will more than likely have to remove it.

Ok..so got the steering rack out of the car...

http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL387.../397109831.jpg

I fought and fought and fought with the tie rods and removing them using pipe wrenches, cheater bars, crescent wrenches, tie rod wrenchl from Smart Racing that I bought from our host, standing on the damn cheater bars and putting all my body weight on the cheater bars...and nothing..no budge..nada..I even heated the crap out of the tie rods..arghh!! By the end of it my T-shirt was drenched in sweat and I was riddled with frustration.

1+hours later still nothing..with being pissed off, in a last minute vain attempt I cracked out my angle grinder and put a fresh metal cutting wheel on it and then began some surgery... I cut the tie rod right at the point where it is mated to the rack, took a couple of minutes, my thinking was to use a drill and an easy (EZ Out) on the remaining threads into the rack and remove it that way..then to my surprise / shock after I cut the tie rod off the threaded section came off in my hand..sweet.

http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL387.../397109832.jpg

http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL387.../397109834.jpg

I then reassembled the new boots on the tie rods, hint on this, easy too that takes 1 minute...use two plastic bicycle tire irons to slip the outer part of the boot against the rubber bung and a tie wrap to keep it all in place and prevent air from getting under the boot, analogous to changing a tire on a bike really just smaller, better than using a screwdriver and risking damage to the new boot or it slipping and taking some skin and flesh out of your fingers or hands!.
http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL387.../397109836.jpg

Making progress!
Yasin

sc_rufctr 06-05-2011 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slow&rusty (Post 6060730)

Great colour choice... Much better than plain old BLACK! ;)

slow&rusty 06-05-2011 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sc_rufctr (Post 6063277)
Great colour choice... Much better than plain old BLACK! ;)

Thanks Peter!

slow&rusty 06-11-2011 08:05 AM

Well making some progress in the Texas heat today (98% humidity!!), if all goes well I might have it all done by tomorrow...pics coming.

911lvr 06-11-2011 09:10 AM

so how are supporting the front end while you are doing all the work? I didnt see any jack stands in any of the photos?

slow&rusty 06-11-2011 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 911lvr (Post 6074150)
so how are supporting the front end while you are doing all the work? I didnt see any jack stands in any of the photos?

Two empty paint cans seem to be doing the trick..although one is starting to accordion.

willtel 06-11-2011 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slow&rusty (Post 6074269)
Two empty paint cans seem to be doing the trick..although one is starting to accordion.

Make sure to use full cans. Safety first!

krono_knut 06-18-2011 07:00 AM

slow&rusty,

Great thread! How's the progress?? I'll be very curious how you think it handles with the new suspension after you get it sorted out.

PM sent with a question.

Steve
East Tennessee


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