nology wires?

[rscupper]

Do Nology wires work? I have a zero-time 2.7 w/Webers, 906 cams, about 11:1 compression, single plug. Anybody have evidence or experiences which should make me consider them? Thanks

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Brian
'73RS (soon)

[rscupper]

Also - just got back from the Nology website. Their applications listing does not show a product for 2.7's. Anyone know? I'll check with Nology in the A.M. Thanks again.

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Brian
'73RS (soon)

[Natchamp]

They have them for P-cars. I almost got a set for my project but ended up with Magnacor. I've never used Nology but I've heard more good than bad. They are pretty pricy, especially a custom set which I needed, yours might not be so bad.

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Mark
The Beast
mark@hargett.com

[Doug Zielke]

Brian,
The concept (if you can call it that) behind Nology wires cannot be substantiated by the laws of electricity. Their idea of a capacitor (in the wire) storing up high-voltage to make a stronger spark does not work on paper, much less in reality.

Since they first came on the market for use on m/c engines a few years ago, Nology has softened their claims for increased performance considerably. Like the infamous "Split-Fire" spark plug, the Nology wires will cost you more, but offer you nothing for it.

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'81 SC Coupe (aka: "Blue Bomber")
Canada West Region PCA
The Blue Bomber's Website

[lsolon]

Get magnecores. I have them on both my cars. Work great-look great

[nikramos]

I just installed it on my 3.2 saturday. I felt the difference, not a lot but noticeable. I bought the coil amplifier but have not installed it yet, i just want to know if the amp is worth the extra money.

[jguthr]

Well, I'm certainly not about to argue the facts of electrical engineering with ya' Doug, but for what it's worth about a year ago I was having some frustrating issues with my 2.4T CIS. My mechanic and I swapped out the plug wires, distributor, plugs, points, you name it to try and solve an uneven idle and unpredictable miss. No OE fix seemed to work. I was about ready to throw in the towel when I read an article in European Car about the Nology system (wires, coil and Beru plugs). Like most of us posters I was skeptical, knowing that Nology purchased ad space in the very magazine that was reviewing their product! However, I decided to give the package a go. Guess what? I haven't had the problem since. Plus, the engine starts better, warm or cold, and gives me a good 5mpg increase on average. Call it coincidence, but the difference in price between OE and the Nology product wasn't enough to make me think twice. Something's working! P.S. If anyone out there does install the Nology coil be sure to trim off a bit of the plastic housing, otherwise it'll likely catch a bit of the inside of the engine lid. Just be careful when you close the lid for the first time.

[Joeaksa]

RSCupper,

Wish I could tell you! I bought a set off of Ebay and found out later that they would not fit my motor! Seems that the insulator that connects the wire with the spark plug inside the head is a bit shorter on the 3.2 motor than the earlier motors and when I plug it onto the spark plug the rubber does not seal against the cylinder head.

Emailed with the seller and he dumped them on me after someone did the same thing to him! We both should have checked the Nology site for the correct part number... The quality and such is very nice but the insulator is an inch too long for my motor.

If you are interested I was just going to put a brand new set of nology wires for a 911 on Pelican and the Rennlist parts boards. Part number 011 486 011 for all 911's from 65 to 83, and turbos 75 to 89. Will NOT fit the 3.2 on my 85 model car. New in the bag, took one wire out to check the fit and the rest is history.

JA

[Formerly Steve Wilkinson]

The Nology wires use the OEM sparkplug connectors, which are not very good and have a high failure rate. Magnecor makes (or acquires) its own connectors.

Stephan

[Peter Kelly]

I have Magnacores on my 3.2 If they are good enough for IRL engines they are good enough for my 3.2

[KTL]

I read the same thing about the Nology wires. No added benefits from the capacitor gig. Don't let Warren hear you say the "M" word. Years ago he had Magnecor on an old Mopar of his and was not too pleased.

Anyway, I have the Magnecor wires on my 87 and they look nice and all but I don't like how they fit on the distributor. The boots seem to want to pop off. Air gets trapped under the boot and makes it want to push up. No big deal just peel back the edge of the boot to let the air out. I just like how the OEM boots click right on the cap. I also like how the connectors are of the screw-on type on the OEM wires. Makes it easy to replace a bad connector.

I also didn't like drilling out the looms to hold the 8.5mm wires in place. Not a hard job of course, but if I replace the wires with original stuff (which I plan to do) I now have to get new looms.

Rscupper, i'd use the factory style connectors with the screw on terminals. You can then purchase a good quality wire and custom fit and route your wires as you desire.

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Kevin
87 Carrera coupe

[kwikt 911]

Well guys I purchased a set and noticed a small performance increase. But they only lasted 2 years before going in the trash.BTW the spark plug connectors are garbage.BETTER OFF BUYING OEM OR MAGNACOR.

Kevin Kipta
72 911T/E [HAPPY WITH OEM WIRES AND LAST MORE THAN 2 YEARS]

[pbs911]

Are you guys noticing the performance increase testing the results with a new set of OEM wires, or are you replacing the old OEM wires?

[island911]

Originally posted by Doug Zielke:
Brian,
The concept (if you can call it that) behind Nology wires cannot be substantiated by the laws of electricity. Their idea of a capacitor (in the wire) storing up high-voltage to make a stronger spark does not work on paper, much less in reality.

Since they first came on the market for use on m/c engines a few years ago, Nology has softened their claims for increased performance considerably. Like the infamous "Split-Fire" spark plug, the Nology wires will cost you more, but offer you nothing for it.

Doug your missing the point. . .you only use these in conjuction with a K&N filter, THEN you get the performance gain!
LOL. . .who obeys the laws of physics anyways? They're just suggestions; right?

[Mike the mechanic]

Who sells Magnecore and how much are they for the 3.2? I was considering ordering a set of Nology but if magnecore are cheaper and do the same or a better job...
I installed my jacobs energy pak ignition, comes with coil and computer. I noticed a better cold start and smoother cruise.

Mike
86 Carrera t

[feelyx]

I went ahead and hooked up to the high tension wires here on the California power grid system... just seemed powerless to the oem system.

Tim in Sac

[jguthr]

Hey Kevin, when you say they "only lasted 2 years" what exactly failed? I just want to be sure I'm close to home about a year from now!

[KTL]

You can get Magnecor wires from Magnecor directly. Just go to www.magnecor.com and if you have Adobe Acrobat, you can view the product catalog to get the right part number you need for your application. I'd get the 7mm wires for an OEM-like fit.

Prices for 85-89 3.2 (what's different about 84's anyway?)

7mm, 8mm- $130
KV85 Competition 8.5mm (ooooh!)- $160

I say save the $30 for your gas tank and get the 7mm. Or save yourself more $$$ and rebuild your factory wires with new wire, screw-on terminals and a few new connectors if needed. Just my $0.02

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Kevin
87 Carrera coupe

[This message has been edited by KTL (edited 07-18-2001).]