Any pics of 16" Euromeisters?

[Arne2]

I know I'm going against the grain here with 16" instead of 17", but humor me. Does anyone have any real pictures of 16" Euromeisters they would care to share? Especially semi-closeups, and/or wheels that have been polished or refinished in classic or RSR style?

[LEAKYSEALS951]

Here are some 16' euromeister pics. In the pics of the car, the front rims are 7 inch fuchs, the rear are eight inch euromeisters. The wheel in the box is a 9 inch euromeister, the closeups are of the 8 inch euromeister. There are other threads which have closeups of the polished lip, which has machine markings on it, so it is not a high polish, but from 20 feet, it matches the front rims fairly decent, especially semi weathered fuch rims. I cannot tell a difference between the fuchs and the euros in terms of shape/thickness/paddle cutout. To me, they look pretty much identical.
Ron

[Arne2]

Exactly what I was hoping to see, Ron. Thanks!

It looks to me as if the 16" are a much closer representation than the 17". The shape of the spoke petals on the 17s appears to be a little more harsh and less "fluid". Probably not a big deal as long as you leave the center black, but more obvious after polishing or other paint treatments.

[RarlyL8]

9x16 ET15

[Arne2]

So it would appear that the shape of the 16" centers are a pretty close match for the originals, especially when the centers are painted black, which tends to mask or mute the contours a bit.

But are they a close enough match if one was planning on a non-black finish? Say I were to polish, paint or powder coat a pair of E-meisters and a pair of real Fuchs, would they look enough the same to get by on the same car the same way that Ron is running on his car pictured above?

[LEAKYSEALS951]

Here's your money shot. I braved arctic cold and perilous danger to obtain this shot! On the left is a fuchs 7x16, on the right, a euromeister 9x16. The petals, shape, etc. seem similar to me, so I don't think that would be a problem. You might, however, have to address the finish on the rim section. The fuchs was polished by the po. The euro has that flatter "machine finished" look, so you'd either need to polish the euro or rough up the fuchs. Also, it appears the PO had painted the center gloss black. Hmmm... I had never really noticed until tonight.

[LEAKYSEALS951]

also, (not a big deal) the fuchs has the valve stem protector thingee and the euromeister does not, so you will have to make a decision regarding that.

[LEAKYSEALS951]

Thinking about your question more, the fuchs petals have a more organic quality. Maybe it's the glossy paint, maybe it's 30 years of polishing and refinishing, maybe it is that the forging process was not as CAD accurate as the euromeisters 21st century casting process, but for whatever reason, the euromeisters have a more "sterile" quality to them. Compare the light reflecting off the 5 o'clock and 6:30ish o'clock petals between the two. If that was a concern, I'd just hit the euromeister petals with some heavy sanding to ditch them out/ reshape/ and "screw them up" until they matched the fuchs more organic quality. Even if there was a slight difference in petal width near the hub or something, you could blend the edges and no one would know.

[porschenut]

Originally Posted by Arne2

So it would appear that the shape of the 16" centers are a pretty close match for the originals, especially when the centers are painted black, which tends to mask or mute the contours a bit.

But are they a close enough match if one was planning on a non-black finish? Say I were to polish, paint or powder coat a pair of E-meisters and a pair of real Fuchs, would they look enough the same to get by on the same car the same way that Ron is running on his car pictured above?

They are so close, they fooled Grady Clay. He bent right down and examined the wheels on my backdated Carrera a couple years ago, and he never suspected they weren't real Fuchs. He loved the car and the way I finished the wheels.

The very same wheels have been repainted (again) and are mounted on this car I just sold: 1986 911 Targa

I'm swapping the tires on to the original Fuchs wheels to be sold with the car, so I'm going to be selling my 7/8 x 16 Euromeisters for cheap. they should be available by Tuesday. If you're interested, PM me.

[Arne2]

Originally Posted by LEAKYSEALS951

Here's your money shot. I braved arctic cold and perilous danger to obtain this shot!

I owe you one, Ron. If you ever find yourself in Western Oregon, give me a shout and I'll pour you a home brew. Or if you don't drink, I'll find some thing else to tempt you with.

Originally Posted by LEAKYSEALS951

The euro has that flatter "machine finished" look, so you'd either need to polish the euro or rough up the fuchs.

Yeah, I know about the machined lip on the E-meisters. My plans allow for that.

Originally Posted by LEAKYSEALS951

also, (not a big deal) the fuchs has the valve stem protector thingee and the euromeister does not, so you will have to make a decision regarding that.

Stem supports can be added easily and affordably. No issue there.

Originally Posted by LEAKYSEALS951

Thinking about your question more, the fuchs petals have a more organic quality. Maybe it's the glossy paint, maybe it's 30 years of polishing and refinishing, maybe it is that the forging process was not as CAD accurate as the euromeisters 21st century casting process, but for whatever reason, the euromeisters have a more "sterile" quality to them.

Exactly. I suspect you are on target with the forged vs. older casting process. The difference is less pronounced in the 16" than it is in the 17", which (to me) look a tad "off".

Originally Posted by porschenut

They are so close, they fooled Grady Clay. He bent right down and examined the wheels on my backdated Carrera a couple years ago, and he never suspected they weren't real Fuchs. He loved the car and the way I finished the wheels.

I can see where that could be the case, if all 4 were E-meisters. Might be easier to see the difference if you mixed them on the car.

When I looked at the pictures of the car for sale, I see the centers were all black. How did you have them finished originally, Dave?

Originally Posted by porschenut

I'm swapping the tires on to the original Fuchs wheels to be sold with the car, so I'm going to be selling my 7/8 x 16 Euromeisters for cheap. they should be available by Tuesday. If you're interested, PM me.

Interested, but not quite ready to pull the trigger yet. Laying plans for after New Years some time.

[porschenut]

Originally Posted by Arne2

When I looked at the pictures of the car for sale, I see the centers were all black. How did you have them finished originally, Dave?

I did a DIY RSR finish, which looked nice but not authentic enough to satisfy me. I ended up sending a set of real Fuchs to Weidman for a proper job.

[porschenut]

Originally Posted by Arne2

When I looked at the pictures of the car for sale, I see the centers were all black. How did you have them finished originally, Dave?

I did a DIY RSR finish, which looked nice but not authentic enough to satisfy me. I ended up sending a set of real Fuchs to Weidman for a proper job.