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Scott R 11-28-2011 12:07 PM

Leather shift boot question
 
I had a shifter meltdown, a broken bushing (year old) died and I bent the tabs up and so on getting into gear, that's another story. Anyway I had the rubber boot under the leather boot. The rubber boot was chewed up where it was getting squished by the outer leather boot.

My question is, if you have the leather boot do you still use the rubber under it? Or did you just remove it?

john walker's workshop 11-28-2011 12:14 PM

the directions say to install the leather over the rubber, but i normally remove the rubber boot. just feels too thick and springy and clunky to me. whatever you do, be sure that nothing gets caught in the reverse lockout system.

Scott R 11-28-2011 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by john walker's workshop (Post 6397575)
the directions say to install the leather over the rubber, but i normally remove the rubber boot. just feels too thick and springy and clunky to me. whatever you do, be sure that nothing gets caught it the reverse lockout system.

John, that's exactly how it felt, now it feels "correct" without the rubber boot. And I believe that's exactly what happened, the rubber boot got mashed in the lockout, mid-drive.

DRACO A5OG 11-28-2011 12:22 PM

+1 I believe the rubber boot is to keep debris or part of the leather catching on the gates.

On my 915 Trans there is a 24MM thin asjustment nut that can loosen or tighten the shift play.

A wrench while back tightend so much that I was horrendous, I tought it was my leather/rubber boot binding but lossening the nut cured it.

Scott R 11-28-2011 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DRACO A5OG (Post 6397593)
+1 I believe the rubber boot is to keep debris or part of the leather catching on the gates.

On my 915 Trans there is a 24MM thin asjustment nut that can loosen or tighten the shift play.

A wrench while back tightend so much that I was horrendous, I tought it was my leather/rubber boot binding but lossening the nut cured it.

When the boot jammed up I panicked and forced things, I broke the welded tab for the Sein shifter off and it fell down and jammed up the 3rd 4th plane. This was totally my fault. I ended up with a shredded boot, the broken tab and a busted cup bushing which is what I think started it. maybe.

Nick Triesch 11-28-2011 02:41 PM

Did a mid 80's 911 come with both the rubber boot and leather boot cover? I think it looks better with the rubber boot.

nesslar 11-28-2011 03:26 PM

Yep, mine has the rubber under there and the leather over the top; works well, the rubber giving support to the leather boot. I do not understand the 'thick/springy/clunky' thing, unless one is shifting while holding the boot................... ;) ...but to each their own, of course....
I don't understand how either the rubber or the leather could just 'get in the way', either, unless one or the other was obviously abused or simply falling apart for whatever reason, age, neglect, dog bite...... I also think the rubber alone looks perfectly awful (with console); leather is cool (so she said). :)

Scott R 11-28-2011 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by nesslar (Post 6398041)
Yep, mine has the rubber under there and the leather over the top; works well, the rubber giving support to the leather boot. I do not understand the 'thick/springy/clunky' thing, unless one is shifting while holding the boot................... ;) ...but to each their own, of course....
I don't understand how either the rubber or the leather could just 'get in the way', either, unless one or the other was obviously abused or simply falling apart for whatever reason, age, neglect, dog bite...... I also think the rubber alone looks perfectly awful (with console); leather is cool (so she said). :)

I had cut the boot a long time ago for the sine spring on the 5th reverse side, it just started falling apart from there. 30+ years old and I went and cut it, was just waiting to happen I guess.

tazzieman 11-28-2011 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by nesslar (Post 6398041)
I also think the rubber alone looks perfectly awful (with console); leather is cool (so she said). :)

To each his/her own. leather ones look like the scrotum of one of these , IMO!
http://www.naturescornermagazine.com...hant%20eye.jpg
Next time you downshift , think of this!

nesslar 11-28-2011 03:55 PM

Edit: This post was a response to Scott, of course.......
Yep, there we go, I just had to guess that something had happened to upset the original setup, you know? Hope the 'jesting' in the rest of my post was taken well...I have pretty good faith in Porsche design, definitely know that Mr. Walker is top notch, even have a reasonable amount of faith in rubber....oops! :eek: :D

nesslar 11-28-2011 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by tazzieman (Post 6398096)
To each his/her own. leather ones look like the scrotum of one of these , IMO!
http://www.naturescornermagazine.com...hant%20eye.jpg
Next time you downshift , think of this!

Very good! I have a coin purse (never used it, but it's a cool conversation piece), kangeroo scrotum, and quite genuine; relative?

tazzieman 11-28-2011 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by nesslar (Post 6398113)
Very good! I have a coin purse (never used it, but it's a cool conversation piece), kangeroo scrotum, and quite genuine; relative?

You have a purse? I have a duct tape wallet that refuses to wear out; if it does I'll make another!
Relative of what exactly?

tazzieman 11-28-2011 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by nesslar (Post 6398134)
YOUR'S, ma'am....

I'm British by birth.

nesslar 11-28-2011 04:25 PM

That's cool, definitely. Really! I have a feeling all our ancestors were pretty much neighbors way back when, friendly or otherwise; a little bit o' Welsh and Irish here, mostly Scandihoovian, however...just for fun:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1322529888.jpg

Joe Bob 11-28-2011 04:31 PM

So if'n a scotum there should be no seam.....

nesslar 11-28-2011 05:05 PM

Here you are, Blow Joe.....a bit blurry on the last, sorry! :cool: Sell me the tools...
:) I knew you would think of that! :) ;) SmileWavy
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1322532153.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1322532192.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1322532235.jpg

Joe Bob 11-28-2011 05:17 PM

What's that on the right? One of them marital aids?

nesslar 11-28-2011 05:21 PM

LMAO....................IT'S A _ _ _ _ _ _ _ FLASHLIGHT FROM DOLLAR TREE, YOU (little) dork! ;)

Scott R 11-28-2011 05:36 PM

My car is really not dirty, I just had to take the picture in the pitch dark sans the interior light. My workbench on the other hand is inexcusable. This is the leather boot sans the rubber interior boot, and the aftermath of the rubber boot jamming in the shifter.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1322534142.jpg




http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1322534182.jpg

tazzieman 11-28-2011 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by nesslar (Post 6398187)
That's cool, definitely. Really! I have a feeling all our ancestors were pretty much neighbors way back when, friendly or otherwise; a little bit o' Welsh and Irish here, mostly Scandihoovian, however...just for fun:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1322529888.jpg

As Hoges said "that's not a knife..."
You've been sold either a wallaby purse or baby kanga love egg pouch. Proper roo gooliesacks are football sized ;) A man's manbag no less.


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