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matt gineo 04-18-2012 06:03 PM

Started right up after long 18 year hibernartion!
 
We'll I finally turned the key and my 1976 Targa 2.7 started right up and ran very well (at idle) I only ran it for a few minutes then let it sit for awhile, started her up again a little later to run a few minutes more. She sounds great, a little smoke at first then cleared up. Good oil pressure and no strange sounds or oil/fuel leaks.
Will check brakes next, replace brake lines and tires then take it out for a spin around the block at higher Revs.

I want to thank everyone who helped me along the way, I surely saved lots of time and $$$ with all the great advice that I received on this forum.
This is what I have done so far.

1. Removed fuel tank and thoroughly cleaned out 2 inches of Gooey sludge.
2. Replaced 5 blade fan with 11 blade fan.
3. Replaced Battery
4. Checked Electrical System, replaced all fuses, cleaned fuse terminals
5. Replaced Injectors, Injector lines, o-rings , insulators
6. Replaced Fuel Pump, Fuel Filter, Fuel Pump Relay, Fuel Lines,
7. Replaced Fuel Accumulator
8. FD & WUR Rebuilt by Larry @ CIS Flowtech
9. Replaced points, plugs, rotor, cap, wires etc. Set ignition timing
10. Checked fuel pressure and vacuum leaks.
10. sprayed MM oil in cylinders, let it sit for awhile then turned engine over after disabling fuel system.
11. Set valves and replaced valve cover gaskets. Covers not warped.
12. Checked Head Bolts, looked OK
13. Changed engine oil and filter and gearbox oil
14. Installed pop-off valve,new airbox straps and air filter.
15, Installed Carrera Chain Tensioner

Compression was a bit low on one cylinder before I started the engine and hopefully it will get better after it runs for awhile. Checked inside cylinders with a scope, didn't
see any corrosion or pitting.

Still have a ways to go but I hope to have her on the road soon!

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1334800893.jpg

tazzieman 04-18-2012 06:05 PM

Well done! Geez that's a nice colour!

matt gineo 04-18-2012 06:14 PM

Thanks Michael

Porboynz 04-18-2012 06:23 PM

Brilliant work, a stitch in time saves nine

John W. 04-18-2012 07:09 PM

You should be very proud of your accomplisment. Good to get another old one on roads again. Enjoy!

regency 04-18-2012 07:22 PM

Dang! I think I'm getting all moist........

Steve

73 911 T MFI Coupe, Aubergine

pete3799 04-18-2012 07:38 PM

Great job.
Keep up the good work.

Hydrocket 04-18-2012 07:40 PM

Great story...and LOVE the exterior color!

Winter 04-18-2012 08:08 PM

Nice!!!!!

Looking forward to the "first drive" post!

drola 04-18-2012 08:53 PM

very inspirational. i'll be cranking up a 68 912 with a 911L motor soon. it's been sitting for 15+ years and i'm pretty much going through the same process minus the cis (carbs instead).
the oil was sludge. and i mean thick.
redoing the entire fuel system, entire brake system, ignition, etc etc.
keeping my fingers crossed. otherwise the car is beautiful.

Jim Richards 04-19-2012 04:33 AM

Congrats Matt! Great looking car.

KNS 04-19-2012 06:48 AM

Gorgeous car - love the chrome trim!

Dublinoh 04-19-2012 06:58 AM

That is a very pretty Targa, agree that the chrome and Targa bar complement the color and Targa configuration well. Nice work.

matt gineo 04-19-2012 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KNS (Post 6697580)
Gorgeous car - love the chrome trim!

Thanks, I really like the trim as well, I guess it was an original factory option but not too many have survived over the years. The fender trim is in perfect condition, not a single scratch or ding.

matt gineo 04-19-2012 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Winter (Post 6697035)
Nice!!!!!

Looking forward to the "first drive" post!

Me Too!!

Josh D 04-19-2012 07:30 AM

Trying to think of an adjective that hasn't been used yet, but.....

What all the others have said!!

Tippy 04-19-2012 08:40 AM

Impressed with the thoroughness of getting everything in working order before firing up, I sometimes lack the patience.

That is why it went so smoothly.

I bet that cylinder will come around with some high-revs! :)

matt gineo 04-19-2012 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tippy (Post 6697805)
Impressed with the thoroughness of getting everything in working order before firing up, I sometimes lack the patience.

That is why it went so smoothly.

I bet that cylinder will come around with some high-revs! :)

Thanks, I hope you're right, I'm pretty confident it will come up too.

malmos911 04-19-2012 09:06 AM

Very nice. I have a '74 911 that's Gazelle metallic ( another unique 70's color) and go to Newport all the time. I will be on the look out for your car.

matt gineo 04-19-2012 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by malmos911 (Post 6697851)
Very nice. I have a '74 911 that's Gazelle metallic ( another unique 70's color) and go to Newport all the time. I will be on the look out for your car.

let me know next time you get to Newport, would like to get together and swap stories. Where do you keep your car?

porwolf 04-19-2012 12:20 PM

Congratulations, you nailed that reawakening thing. I can see how that car with that color and that finish keeps inspiring you. Must be a great thrill to run it through the neighborhood and then far away! I don't drive mine very much, but when I do it's always like the first time! Love it!

malmos911 04-20-2012 07:10 AM

I live in Charlestown, about 30 to 35 minutes away. Is that your garage in those pics of your car?

Hugh R 04-20-2012 07:40 AM

Nice, I feel bad when mine sits for a month due to travel for work. Gonna run some errands in it this morning.

matt gineo 04-20-2012 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by malmos911 (Post 6699995)
I live in Charlestown, about 30 to 35 minutes away. Is that your garage in those pics of your car?

Is that Charlestown RI or Mass? I took the photo at Jake Kaplan's Jag dealership in RI. where it sat for 16 years. It was taken just before I bought the car and before any cleaning, detailing work. It's in my garage in Newport right now and will start cleaning her up as soon as I finish the brakes. Will post some pics after I buff it out. I have a 120 x 100 ft garage with a machine shop, welding shop, wood shop etc. We build our boats in the shop from December through April then it sits empty for 7 months.

dave 911 04-20-2012 09:33 AM

Awesome!! Congrats, and it's great to have another 76 targa on the board :)!

matt gineo 04-20-2012 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dave 911 (Post 6700215)
Awesome!! Congrats, and it's great to have another 76 targa on the board :)!

Thanks Dave, Love your color!

matt gineo 04-29-2012 04:57 PM

After 18 years she's on the road again!! Took her out for a short, slow drive today and everything seems ok. Need to do a little brake work then off to the Highway!http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1335747427.jpg

szyzygy 04-29-2012 05:04 PM

Good job on the pre-work. Love the color.
Nice to see another old Porsche still on the road after all these years!

TimT 04-29-2012 05:09 PM

Pretty car.... though it need to lose the "Paris-Dakar" look ;)

matt gineo 04-30-2012 04:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimT (Post 6719343)
Pretty car.... though it need to lose the "Paris-Dakar" look ;)

Thanks

Do you know what the original US spec ride height is and how much it should be lowered? I don't want it too low as I have heard about cars bottoming out on small speed bumps, driveways etc. How do you measure the ride height , from the bottom trim of the fender to the ground?

I'm not sure what size tires are on the car now. That's the next thing I'll be replacing.

cdrik915 04-30-2012 06:41 AM

Congrats !!!


The color is not usual , i've never seen a 911 with this paint .


Amazing !!!

Divedeep 04-30-2012 06:58 AM

I am happy for you! Lower the body a bit more, she is to high for my taste.

Rest is supreme!!!

Have fun!

javadog 04-30-2012 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matt gineo (Post 6720009)
Do you know what the original US spec ride height is and how much it should be lowered? I don't want it too low as I have heard about cars bottoming out on small speed bumps, driveways etc. How do you measure the ride height , from the bottom trim of the fender to the ground?

Porsche measures the ride height by calculating the difference between the center of the wheel and the center of the torsion bars. That way, the diameter of the tires has no bearing on the issue. The US ride height varied over the years; I'd suggest using the "ROW" spec from that era. If you buy a "Porsce technical specification" book for that year, it will have the numbers you need.

2 cautions: 90% of the people here will tell you to measure the height to the bottom of the fender wheel openings. Not an accurate way to do it... The same 90% will offer measurements of "euro" or "ROW" height that are actually lower than what they should be.

The front end of your car may be higher than ususal, if the fuel level is low. These cars drop a noticeable amount in the front when you add fuel. You might also check to see if there is a 5mm thick spacer at the top of the front struts, under the fender. Porsche installed these on some models (various years) to raise the front end to meet DOT regulations and while keeping acceptable front suspension kinematics. I don't recall what year they started doing this, so check your car and remove them if you have them, before you adjust the suspension. When you do adjust it, have it done at a shop that is very familiar with these cars and make sure that they weigh each corner and set the corner weights correctly. Having the corner weights within specifications is a little more important than having dead even ride heights from side to side.

Have fun,
JR

ant7 04-30-2012 07:34 AM

Realy great looking car,
Well done on the re-awakening, good luck with it.SmileWavy
Anthony.

matt gineo 04-30-2012 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by javadog (Post 6720226)
Porsche measures the ride height by calculating the difference between the center of the wheel and the center of the torsion bars. That way, the diameter of the tires has no bearing on the issue. The US ride height varied over the years; I'd suggest using the "ROW" spec from that era. If you buy a "Porsce technical specification" book for that year, it will have the numbers you need.

2 cautions: 90% of the people here will tell you to measure the height to the bottom of the fender wheel openings. Not an accurate way to do it... The same 90% will offer measurements of "euro" or "ROW" height that are actually lower than what they should be.

The front end of your car may be higher than ususal, if the fuel level is low. These cars drop a noticeable amount in the front when you add fuel. You might also check to see if there is a 5mm thick spacer at the top of the front struts, under the fender. Porsche installed these on some models (various years) to raise the front end to meet DOT regulations and while keeping acceptable front suspension kinematics. I don't recall what year they started doing this, so check your car and remove them if you have them, before you adjust the suspension. When you do adjust it, have it done at a shop that is very familiar with these cars and make sure that they weigh each corner and set the corner weights correctly. Having the corner weights within specifications is a little more important than having dead even ride heights from side to side.

Have fun,
JR

Thanks for the great info. I took the photo while everything was out of the trunk for cleaning, spare tire, tool kit and jack, fuel tank was about 1/4 full. I'll make sure to load it back up before taking any measurements.

manbridge 74 04-30-2012 09:27 AM

Seconding javadog here.

Perhaps this car had 16" wheels or larger OD tires on it at some point? Just put 15" rims back on mine and had to lower front by two turns to return to same height as with 16" wheels.

matt gineo 04-30-2012 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdrik915 (Post 6720141)
Congrats !!!


The color is not usual , i've never seen a 911 with this paint .


Amazing !!!

Thanks, I'm pretty sure it's Peru Red.

matt gineo 06-16-2012 06:01 PM

I was finally able to take her out for a real ride yesterday, new tires, good brakes, gearbox and suspension. At first there was a little hesitation during slow acceleration, after running seafoam and a tank full of gas I replaced the fuel filter and now she's running like a champ! Pulling strong, no smoke or oil leaks.

I still have a few odds and ends to take care of, lower stance, remove thermal reactors etc. but I'm going to enjoy it this summer and get back to business this winter.

I thought the color was Peru Red but after checking the paint code I found that it's actually Sienna Metallic.

Thanks to all my fellow Pelican's who helped me get her running again! http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1339898426.jpg

HarryD 06-16-2012 08:20 PM

Great story.

If it was me I would make point of getting rid of the thermal reactors ASAP.

arknjl007 06-16-2012 08:23 PM

where are the links to 4 barrell carb set up with plentum....design....intke adjustments...etc


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