Help with value of a 356

[R K T]

You may be surprised how many "actual" sales like that one are happening! A 356 has been the one car you can buy, drive and then sell for a profit. I've made money on every 356 I've owned, especially the '55 Speedster.
As for power....my 356 Outlaw would eat Mustangs for lunch!!!

[Don Ivey]

I owned a couple of 356's in the past, and the last was a '64C coupe, in very good condition, all original. I sold it to a fellow 356Registry guy for $25K, and within the year prices started creeping up. I would imagine the same car would go for at least $35K now. I agree with those folks who bemoan selling their cars, as I would love to have it back now. But I am really enjoying the '87 Carrera every bit as much, just in a different way. Life's short, and there are too many cars still to drive.

Don Ivey
Smithfield, NC

[mb911]

here are some pictures will be posted for sale monday or so in the for sale section

[mb911]

a few mope I have 17 but not posting them all

[jaldeguer]

The car looks pristine. If its a true SC with matching numbers, this car should be north of $50,000. Sad to hear you need to let go of this one but good luck on the sale.

Regards,

Jay

[KNS]

QUOTE: I have always looked at these cars some what out of curiosity and some what seriously. The prices are on the rise from what I have seen. I see it this way, I have a '31 Ford Model A, A beautiful car but there is a looming issue that cant be solved. Its not fast enough. I dont mean its not fast enough to drag race I mean that its slowness is actually becoming a safety issue on the road. The brakes are so bad that its unsafe to drive with in 700 yards of some one in case they slam on there modern ABS systems. The car on occasion holds up traffic when climbing a hill because of how slow it is. The reason I say this is because cars like the 356 are getting to be the oldest cars you can drive on the road and still keep up with modern traffic. Thus there desirability has gone from a slow old car to a beautiful vintage car. That being said sales are on the rise. Pictures will make the difference here people wont say much until we see it. Rust is also a serious issue. Many of the 356's I have looked at for restoration are rust buckets. My 78SC is galvanized and I can some what ignore that issue with cars like that. The best way to price it is to hunt for similar cars and see what people are asking. Unlike a 911 this car may not sell over night. As a member of the younger generation on this forum many people around my age with disposable income, no wife, and a lot of time for a weekend sports car, are looking for some thing like a 911. Although I love the 356 and would kill for one, I am a rare man stuck in the wrong time period. It can never hurt to price it a bit to high and see what offers you get. It does not sound like you need to sell it tomorrow so I say put it up for well over what you want for it/think its worth, and see what kind of offers you get.

Regards
Dave[/QUOTE]


I watched a show not long ago with Alain de Cadenet driving a vintage Ferrari in the California Mille. He was stuck in bumper-to-bumper traffic while the brakes ended up getting a bit hot. He expressed his concern about driving an older car mixed in with modern traffic. He shortly after rear ended the car in front of him.

[rfuerst911sc]

Very nice car good luck with the sale.

[mb911]

Originally Posted by jaldeguer

The car looks pristine. If its a true SC with matching numbers, this car should be north of $50,000. Sad to hear you need to let go of this one but good luck on the sale.

Regards,

Jay

I wish but in order to be pristine it would need a bare metal respray. My dad is pretty OCD when it comes to clean cars it drives him nut when he comes over and sees my kids junk in out suburban that needs a french frie flush once every month

I wish I could put it for sale for $40K but I also dont want to scare people away either

[Baz]

^^^ This - go to eBay and browse all the 356 cars there - this will give you a feel for what others are asking.

There is a wide variation in the years, models, and conditions of these cars so you'll have to sort through these variables to figure out where you should be.

Also - if you can take the car to a local shop which routinely works on these cars - and knows their stuff - have a PPI done and document it. Older more valuable collector cars like these can bring some serious money but with that market there is major scrutiny, as there should be. It's all about the details of the condition of the car. Potential buyers will want to see this anyway - so save time and also this will help you in determining proper value of the car.

Lastly - the 356 Registry has local "groups" which operate as separate clubs...look yours up (look in your dad's recent issue of the registry magazine - they are listed in the front) and contact the local president and let him know you want to sell the car. He can help you get it listed or point you in the right direction.

The 356 group are the most structured and technically savvy of all Porsche models but yes within' their ranks you will find a fair share of snobs - but most of the owners are not that way at all.....get in touch with your local group and they will be your best resource.

And don't forget eBay is a good starting point to see what the market looks like.

You can always post a classified in PP too.

Good luck and KTF!

[Baz]

No offense but I'm not too crazy about Fuchs on a tub......I'm more of a purist and appreciate originality. That said mine is a driver and I embrace my jealous lover's scratch down the passenger side.

I wouldn't list this car for under $50K if I were you. The market is inching back up and I predict in a year it will really start shooting back up. Might be worth even hanging onto another year....just my 2 cents.

[mb911]

Originally Posted by Baz

No offense but I'm not too crazy about Fuchs on a tub......I'm more of a purist and appreciate originality. That said mine is a driver and I embrace my jealous lover's scratch down the passenger side.

I wouldn't list this car for under $50K if I were you. The market is inching back up and I predict in a year it will really start shooting back up. Might be worth even hanging onto another year....just my 2 cents.

no offense taken he also has the correct original wheels with brand new tires and nice hub caps

[pplkook]

Originally Posted by R K T

You may be surprised how many "actual" sales like that one are happening! A 356 has been the one car you can buy, drive and then sell for a profit. I've made money on every 356 I've owned, especially the '55 Speedster.
As for power....my 356 Outlaw would eat Mustangs for lunch!!!

I love this 356 so much. After completely restoring (and selling) a 62 westfalia when I moved to California because it was such a pain to drive ( too slow to get going and too slow to stop). I always thought a 356 would be similar. But this is perfect, power, breaks, good rubber, and freeking gorgeous in every aspect...lucky person is who bought this from you.....

[Baz]

Different strokes for different folks.

I have a friend, who is also a client, and he is a "car guy" but his idea of a classic is a Viper, which he bought, and an SRT Challenger, which he just bought. He had recently owned a Cayenne, which he got rid of because the repair bills were too much over the past 2 years. He may never know the same pleasure I get from driving an original 356 because his mind is on pure power - not legacy nor heritage. Ironically - a well tuned tub in good condition can really scoot. Most who ride in mine are amazed at how quick they are and how much fun they are to drive. A 4 cylinder. Of course, the driver makes a huge difference too in how a car performs.

Yesterday he made an interesting unsolicited comment to me which speaks volumes about his slant on things...."FWIW, the SRT could outperform the Cayenne on any track." What can you say to a comment like that? It has no relevance to anything

[group911@aol.co]

Originally Posted by KNS

QUOTE: I have always looked at these cars some what out of curiosity and some what seriously. The prices are on the rise from what I have seen. I see it this way, I have a '31 Ford Model A, A beautiful car but there is a looming issue that cant be solved. Its not fast enough. I dont mean its not fast enough to drag race I mean that its slowness is actually becoming a safety issue on the road. The brakes are so bad that its unsafe to drive with in 700 yards of some one in case they slam on there modern ABS systems. The car on occasion holds up traffic when climbing a hill because of how slow it is. The reason I say this is because cars like the 356 are getting to be the oldest cars you can drive on the road and still keep up with modern traffic. Thus there desirability has gone from a slow old car to a beautiful vintage car. That being said sales are on the rise. Pictures will make the difference here people wont say much until we see it. Rust is also a serious issue. Many of the 356's I have looked at for restoration are rust buckets. My 78SC is galvanized and I can some what ignore that issue with cars like that. The best way to price it is to hunt for similar cars and see what people are asking. Unlike a 911 this car may not sell over night. As a member of the younger generation on this forum many people around my age with disposable income, no wife, and a lot of time for a weekend sports car, are looking for some thing like a 911. Although I love the 356 and would kill for one, I am a rare man stuck in the wrong time period. It can never hurt to price it a bit to high and see what offers you get. It does not sound like you need to sell it tomorrow so I say put it up for well over what you want for it/think its worth, and see what kind of offers you get.

Regards
Dave

I watched a show not long ago with Alain de Cadenet driving a vintage Ferrari in the California Mille. He was stuck in bumper-to-bumper traffic while the brakes ended up getting a bit hot. He expressed his concern about driving an older car mixed in with modern traffic. He shortly after rear ended the car in front of him.

And that was the car's fault? A poor carpenter blames his tools.

[R K T]

Originally Posted by pplkook

I love this 356 so much. After completely restoring (and selling) a 62 westfalia when I moved to California because it was such a pain to drive ( too slow to get going and too slow to stop). I always thought a 356 would be similar. But this is perfect, power, breaks, good rubber, and freeking gorgeous in every aspect...lucky person is who bought this from you.....

Thanks!
I truly miss this car everyday. But it was not the most practical of all the 356s I've had.....It was a beast. It was not a 356 you could go for an easy quiet ride in the country in. It was obnoxious and in 10/10ths all the time......And I still miss it.

I bought it for 60K. Owned it for three years and sold it to European Collectibles for 90K.
They sold it to a guy in Ireland for 110K.
That was my point about consigning a car to EC. They will get top dollar for the car and the consignor has the option to sell it or not. If it sells EC takes a 10% fee. Of course transporting the car to SoCal is your responsibility.

[mb911]

posted for sale


1964 356 sc FS or trade for 964/993 tiptronic

[911s55]

That appears to be a very nice car, I think you are in the ballpark on asking price if not a little low. $50 k starting price does not seem out of line. If I were you I would put the original wheels and caps on and sell the Fuchs seperately. Originals will enhance or not deter from the price as the Fuchs might, also if those Fuchs are 15"x4.5" they could be worth north of 3k.

David

[KNS]

QUOTE=And that was the car's fault? A poor carpenter blames his tools.



Alain de Cadenet certainly knows how to drive a vintage sports car... He voiced his frustration with the heavy traffic. While trying to leave enough space between his car and the one in front of him, another car would squeeze in and fill the space he just created. He was never able to get more than a car length of spacing.

[JmuRiz]

Good looking car, I got my car for a deal...but that one being #s matching and the original color should be close to $50k. If you could, maybe put on a set of steel wheels with hubcaps for the "right look"...even though the fuchs will make the car perform better.

I really like that muffler, what's the story with it?

[mb911]

just to follow up thanks everyone for the info the car has been sold and sounds like it will get a full restoration. Sold inbetween the values that everyone gave thanks again now my dad will start searching for another car to fit his needs