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javadog 05-12-2012 02:55 PM

RSR plastic outer door handle - available?
 
Is there anybody making reproductions of the plastic outer door handles originally made by DOM for the later 911 race cars, like the RSR? I know about the 911R style plastic handles that are sold by TRE and others, but those are different than the ones I seek.

Yes, there are originals available, if I wanted to spend 1,000 euros, but I'm looking for something a little more reasonable.

The attached photo, borrowed from the elevenparts.com web site, shows what I'm after. It needs to be able to accomodate the later release mechanism and locking cylinder.

Thanks,
Jeff

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1336863342.jpg

proffighter 05-14-2012 12:18 AM

1+ subscribed

Walko 05-14-2012 01:15 AM

+2 I take 2 Sets

sc_rufctr 05-14-2012 01:38 AM

Nice. I bet they weigh almost nothing.

javadog 05-14-2012 05:09 AM

Yeah, they're nice, probably weigh only a few ounces each and lots of people would buy a set. The question is, does anybody make reproductions of these things? I'm starting to think that the answer is no...

JR

proffighter 05-15-2012 01:04 AM

I have found these once, does anybody have bought some?

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/506152/1970-porsche-911/page-4

911R outer door handles 69-89

javadog 05-15-2012 03:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by proffighter (Post 6748443)
I have found these once, does anybody have bought some?

Yes, those are both made by the same guy. Lots of them have been sold but they are not the ones that I'm looking for.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClyderGerman (Post 6748447)
I bet they weigh almost nothing.
http://www.mangood.info/1.jpg

A couple ounces each, I'm told...

JR

proffighter 05-15-2012 04:55 AM

You're looking for later RSR ones, but what is later, 964, 993?

The ones I posted are also available for the 911's with mechanism through the little lever instead of pushing the lock cylinder...

May a pic would help

However, are the ones I posted usable, like lock mounting, fit etc...?

javadog 05-15-2012 05:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by proffighter (Post 6748589)
You're looking for later RSR ones, but what is later, 964, 993?

1970's RSR

Quote:

Originally Posted by proffighter (Post 6748589)
May a pic would help

Which is why I posted a picture of the one I want, in my first post....:D

Quote:

Originally Posted by proffighter (Post 6748589)
The ones I posted are also available for the 911's with mechanism through the little lever instead of pushing the lock cylinder...

The web site you linked has this to say about the later style:

The later handle, with the trigger, will be available soon

I don't know when that might be, so I was asking if there's another source that is available now. My guess is that the answer is no...

I'll see if I can get in touch with Mike at AR Concepts and ask him about them.

Thanks,
Jeff

proffighter 05-15-2012 06:49 AM

Hmmm, but for me, TRE may have them available.

"...If you wish to install these with later model doors and/or mechanisms, please specify TRE H 911RPL. These have the longer plunger to work with the later models. Sold per pair"

GeorgeK 05-15-2012 08:51 AM

The 70's RSRs did not have plastic handles.
I had a pair of these on my former orange Carrera 3.o, they worked perfectly. Worries were raised at the time about crash safety, i.e. what if the handle breaks off in a crash and you're in the car, injured.

javadog 05-15-2012 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by proffighter (Post 6748786)
TRE may have them available.

What TRE has are the earlier, pushbutton style handles.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeorgeK (Post 6749024)
The 70's RSRs did not have plastic handles.
I had a pair of these on my former orange Carrera 3.o, they worked perfectly.

I've seen more than one RSR that used them, and others say that they were available at some point in the '70's, so.... The picture at the top of the thread is supposed to be an original factory part.

Regardless, I'm after a set of these. I've spoken to Dave at TRE this morning and he doesn't think they will be available this year, although making them has been discussed.

Where did you get yours? Got any more where those came from?

JR

Mark Morrissey 05-15-2012 01:03 PM

I've seen a lot of RSRs and I've never seen one with plastic door handles ... so I for one would love to see a photo... just 'cause I'd like to... not sayin they didn't have them but I have my doubts. Eleven parts shows an R tach with a green numerals and as far as I understand, the 911R had white numerals. But then, I've been wrong before.

I'm 98 percent sure that no one is making plastic door handles pictured in your first post. The guy who makes the handles for TRE is Mike Swanson... he's in the midwest... the links in proffighters post is Mike's site. I've bought quite a few handles directly from him...He's a good guy and always looking to improve the strength of his handles.

But, I'll tell you from experience, as far a breakage is concerned, it's not a question of if, but when.

I wouldn't be surprised if he could reproduce the above handle but he'd have to have something to make a cast from.

GeorgeK 05-15-2012 01:08 PM

I am rather positive they were not available at the time. My mechanic worked at the factory and raced RSRs at the time in private teams, and he'd know. Such a specific and special detail would be all over the books, like the 911R handles.

Some guy in Germany stumbled by chance on a whole bag of those, probably over 100. I got my pair from him, must have been around 2001-2002. He inquired at the factory, and after denying they made them, they reluctantly admitted having had a batch made, but never used. How they got out of the factory is a mystery. They had a part number that was unique, so it was a factory effort for sure. Production seemed to be mid to late 80's. Details are foggy, as it was 10 years ago.

That is how I remember it.

proffighter 07-26-2013 06:49 AM

Double post in Turbo forum...

After I had contact to Mike Swanson, who makes some RSR replica outer door handles, he is not responding anymore... He agreed to make some for me, but now???

Does anyone know him or what happend to him?

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1374850182.jpg

westcoast911 07-26-2013 06:55 AM

Sounds like a job for a 3D printer- pretty sure I saw a thread somewhere where a guy had a plastic shift knob made by an online company that does 3D printing on spec. Do a google search.

jpnovak 07-26-2013 08:08 AM

If anyone has a CAD file I can print them. I just got a 3D printer.

KTL 07-26-2013 08:12 AM

Clint at Rebel Racing Products sells them. May indeed get them from TRE?

BodyExterior

TRE Cup 07-26-2013 08:33 AM

Regarding factory RSR door handles. Yes, they did indeed use them. I personally saw them on several of Vasek's factory race cars way back when. Those cars did not use a lock cylinder or trigger paddle. They used the spring loaded push button to actuate the door release mechanism. The 2.1 turbo RSR had aluminum buttons

3D printing would indeed be an option, and bet that it will be expensive to get all the details right. I would suggest a nylon like plastic so there is some flexibility to the piece

Clint sells our 911R handles

GeorgeK 07-26-2013 08:40 AM

Dave,
Were the handles the same as the '74-on black handles, or earlier versions?
I know (see it every week) of an original '74 RSR that has never been modified, and it has std alloy handles, with locks.


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