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nineball 06-16-2012 06:44 AM

yep, i was referring to grinding/trimming down the under side of the tail at the bottom, where it meets the rubber seal.

i think the pics make the top edge look worse than it is. it actually looks pretty flush along that edge, and with a couple washers on each side the corners match the body well.

techweenie 06-16-2012 07:05 AM

Sounds like you have it covered. Typical ducktails on the market today should be thought of as a copy of a copy of a copy. The originals didn't fit perfectly.

Most copies seem to leave big gaps along the sides.

In the past, I've tried replacing the cast "frame" on fiberglass ducks with a stock steel frame, hoping the fit would improve. But that brings its own set of challenges, including separation of the fiberglass from the steel (this is an area that heat cycles a lot). Good luck. I think you're on the right track. Please share progress pix.

nineball 06-16-2012 07:11 AM

just to be clear this is the edge i am contemplating trimming. it appears to be the one that is causing the tail to stick up when the rubber seal is installed but i will know for certain in a couple hours when i can get out there.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...Untitled-1.jpg

djdsc 06-16-2012 07:46 AM

I have only done this once and I'm not a body man but it is all about "splitting the difference". Especially if you are not going to grind and fill the edges with FG as most manufactures would suggest.

You seem to have washers only under the front (top) hinge holes. Try stacking another washer or 2 under the front holes and then like maybe 1 in the lower hole. This may lift the bar you want to grind enough and still be OK with the under the window and qtr. flush fit.

nineball 06-16-2012 07:48 AM

i'll give it a shot but i don't think that will solve the problem. by adding washers i will be raising the front edge, which doesn't need to be, an doing nothing to help seat the tail lower over the rubber seal. thanks for the suggestion though.

nineball 06-16-2012 04:24 PM

didn't get a chance to mess with the duck today but for comparison here is the duck with the rubber seal in place.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...e/IMG_0922.jpg


and here without

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...e/IMG_0933.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...e/IMG_0934.jpg


getting there.....


i happened to go to a local track today where my pca was hosting a de event. there were a pair of 911s sitting next to each other, both with ducks. one sat fully flush with the quarters and the other was slightly raised like in my last 2 pics above (the sides). after seeing them both in person i have changed my mind and like it sticking up a bit along the side. i can't tell you why, it just looks better to me. luckily that way is a lot easier to achieve in my case :)

nineball 09-17-2012 03:02 PM

finally figured out the problem. the duck was for an early car as it had the area on the bottom (under the lower lip) to mount the license plate lights. instead of cutting up the tail i removed the rubber strip and replaced it with some foam that the tail can seal up against.

drola 09-17-2012 04:33 PM

Do these ducktails come with provisions for an a/c condenser?
I really want to put one on my coupe.

nineball 09-18-2012 06:29 AM

i don't think so but i could be wrong. i removed my ac years ago and don't really remember how they connect. i can tell you they do not come with the mount for the engine bay light so i'll have to figure out a way to mount it.

Josh D 09-18-2012 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drola (Post 6981987)
Do these ducktails come with provisions for an a/c condenser?
I really want to put one on my coupe.

They don't. But creative fabrication can be done to mount to one of the aftermarket ducktails.

My aftermarket condenser mounted to the hinges in front, so I fabbed some brackets out of aluminum angle across the rear of the condenser to mount to both sides of the tail.

http://i906.photobucket.com/albums/a...asyover/c2.jpg
http://i906.photobucket.com/albums/a...asyover/c4.jpg
http://i906.photobucket.com/albums/a...asyover/c3.jpg

nineball 09-18-2012 12:45 PM

this is the edge i was talking about

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...e/IMG_0926.jpg


here you can see where older style license plate lights would go

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...e/IMG_0925.jpg

mclmk8d 09-19-2012 04:13 AM

Quote:

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