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356Fan 08-07-2012 05:58 AM

Resolving Shift Lever Swivel
 
I have a shift lever linkage rod etc from a 69 911. Recently when going into first or reverse the shift lever will turn or swivel to the side. I haven’t opened it up yet but if I recall it’s a ball mated to the bottom of the shift lever, is that correct?

It feels as if the lever is rotating in the ball. If this is the case is there any advice for solving the problem.

Also can someone point me to a exploded view diagram of this shifter linkage.

Thank you in advance.

uwanna 08-07-2012 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by 356Fan (Post 6898122)
I have a shift lever linkage rod etc from a 69 911. Recently when going into first or reverse the shift lever will turn or swivel to the side. I haven’t opened it up yet but if I recall it’s a ball mated to the bottom of the shift lever, is that correct?

It feels as if the lever is rotating in the ball. If this is the case is there any advice for solving the problem.

Also can someone point me to a exploded view diagram of this shifter linkage.

Thank you in advance.

Very common problem, it will get worse the more you shift it! The epoxy that "glues" the stick to the lower "socket/ball" has failed. You just need to remove the stick and re epoxy it with a good high qualiy epoxy. Go to this tech article on install of short shifter for good pics and directions for removal and reassembly:
Pelican Technical Article: Short Shift Kit Install



EDIT: If you know someone who can weld, you just tack weld it together instead of epoxy.

356Fan 08-07-2012 07:56 AM

Thank you for the response.

Sounds like the epoxy can be done without talking it all apart. Any idea if the tack weld can be done in the car as well.

uwanna 08-07-2012 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by 356Fan (Post 6898300)
Thank you for the response.

Sounds like the epoxy can be done without talking it all apart. Any idea if the tack weld can be done in the car as well.

In order to tack weld it, you would need to remove the stick. As a matter of fact, I would not try the epoxy without removing the stick.
The shifter comes apart very easily, and will also give you the opportunity to replace the bushings as they are probably in need of replacement.

http://www.pelicanparts.com/cgi-bin/smart/more_info.cgi?pn=911-424-139-00-M260&catalog_description=Ball%20Cup%20Shift%20Bush ing%20at%20base%20of%20shift%20lever%2C%20%39%31%3 2E%2C%20%39%31%31%20%28%31%39%37%34%2D%38%36%29%2C %20%39%31%31%20Turbo%20%28%31%39%37%36%2D%38%38%29 %20

http://www.pelicanparts.com/cgi-bin/smart/more_info.cgi?pn=914-424-224-00-M260&catalog_description=Shift%20Rod%20Bushing%20i n%20Tunnel%20Behind%20Shifter%2C%20%39%31%32E%2C%2 0%39%31%31%20%28%31%39%36%39%2D%38%36%29%2C%20%39% 31%31%20Turbo%20%28%31%39%37%36%2D%38%38%29%20

911pcars 08-07-2012 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 356Fan (Post 6898300)
Thank you for the response.

Sounds like the epoxy can be done without talking it all apart. Any idea if the tack weld can be done in the car as well.

Sure, but I would remove it to make access easier and ultimately .... safer. It's only 5 threaded bolts; (3-M8, 2-M6). Use an electric welding technique (wire, Tig or stick). I would avoid a flame torch - too many non-metal parts in the housing can melt.

To ensure the upper lever aligns properly with the lower section, I would first prep the parts to join with the welder (bare metal, no grease/paint), then while in the car, set in place with a small tab of epoxy. This will give you some working time before it sets up and will keep parts aligned before removing the housing and tack welding as shown. Remove the nylon ball socket before welding to avoid overheating it. You don't have to overdo the welding area. This is more than sufficient.

With welding heat, you may want to remove bubbled paint with a wire wheel, then repaint. While you're there, inspect the nylon bushings for wear, then replace as needed.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1344387461.jpg

Sherwood

mrehrer 12-21-2012 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by 911pcars (Post 6899287)

Is it correct to assume that this hole just above the ball is oriented perpendicular to length of the car (eg. left to right and not front to back) when the shifter is installed?

pete3799 12-21-2012 10:00 AM

Correct......left to right.

RWebb 12-21-2012 12:35 PM

replace all the bushings & blueprint the tower etc. while you're addressing the lever


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