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Plavan 04-03-2013 09:34 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BRAIDusa (Post 7366456)
7x17 et+39
8x17 et+21
9.5x17 et+19
11x17 et+00
I have to wait for-
17x10 et-15 & 17x9 +15 (9.5x17 et+19 could work)

PcarPhil 04-03-2013 11:18 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BRAIDusa (Post 7366456)
7x17 et+39
8x17 et+21
9.5x17 et+19
11x17 et+00
Hey there Paul,

What's the current eta on the above sizes? Also will custom sizes and offsets be available?

Thanks for the info,

jsveb 04-03-2013 03:36 PM
So you are saying the "turbo width Fuchs are now available?

How much? I can't find them online.

matt2000 05-18-2013 02:39 AM
Heard from Braid europe that 17in are not being made.

BRAIDusa 05-18-2013 09:17 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by matt2000 (Post 7448161)
Heard from Braid europe that 17in are not being made.
Not being made "yet".

HKZ Bob 05-19-2013 12:16 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BRAIDusa (Post 7448547)
Not being made "yet".

Short question to Braid USA

I have heard rumors that the Fuchs wheel design is patent protected by Fuchs.

Is this patent valid only for Europe? What are the patent rules in the US.?

http://www.fuchsfelge.de/fileadmin/user_upload/Relaunch/Download/deutsch/SonderdruckSchmiederaederFuerAudi.pdf

By the way original Fuchs wheels can be also directly purchased over their web side.

http://www.fuchsfelge.de/index.php?id=336

BR
Bob

chrisf 05-21-2013 11:56 AM
Paul:

I've been trying to reach you concerning 17" wheels.

Shoot me a pm or email when you get a chance.

Thanks,

~chris

BRAIDusa 05-29-2013 09:14 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by chrisf (Post 7453797)
Paul:

I've been trying to reach you concerning 17" wheels.

Shoot me a pm or email when you get a chance.

Thanks,

~chris
PM sent Chris.

BRAIDusa 05-29-2013 09:18 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by HKZ Bob (Post 7449420)
Short question to Braid USA

I have heard rumors that the Fuchs wheel design is patent protected by Fuchs.

Is this patent valid only for Europe? What are the patent rules in the US.?

http://www.fuchsfelge.de/fileadmin/user_upload/Relaunch/Download/deutsch/SonderdruckSchmiederaederFuerAudi.pdf

By the way original Fuchs wheels can be also directly purchased over their web side.

OTTO FUCHS KG: Online Rädershop

BR
Bob
No idea Bob. Referred to our legal people.

BTW looks like those wheels are only for later Porsches.

HKZ Bob 05-29-2013 11:06 AM
The original Fuchs Wheel is available in

Vorderachse:
7J x 17, ET55 | 7,50 kg | EUR 529,00*

Hinterachse:

8J x 17, ET52 | 7,70 kg | EUR 559,00*

9J x 17, ET55 | 7,95 kg | EUR 589,00*

see link. Also in 18"

http://www.fuchsfelge.de/fileadmin/user_upload/Relaunch/Gutachten/Verwendungsbereich_Stand02.04.13.pdf

Plavan 05-29-2013 11:18 AM
Quote:
The original Fuchs Wheel is available in <br>
<br>
Vorderachse:<br>
7J x 17, ET55 | 7,50 kg | EUR 529,00*<br>
<br>
Hinterachse:<br>
<br>
8J x 17, ET52 | 7,70 kg | EUR 559,00*<br>
<br>
9J x 17, ET55 | 7,95 kg | EUR 589,00*<br>
<br>
see link. Also in 18"<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.fuchsfelge.de/fileadmin/user_upload/Relaunch/Gutachten/Verwendungsbereich_Stand02.04.13.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.fuchsfelge.de/fileadmin/user_upload/Relaunch/Gutachten/Verwendungsbereich_Stand02.04.13.pdf</a>
Uncool post- plus they don't fit our cars.

HKZ Bob 05-29-2013 09:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Plavan (Post 7469145)
Uncool post- plus they don't fit our cars.
Poor Guy you don´t have a 996 or 997
How about a 964. Your life is treating you bad. I feel sorry for you.

I wish you all good luck. But uncool is if replica wheels are being sold and nobody knows about if a design patent is existing or not.

And then complaining of the China Copy Paste mentality.

The poor buyer has a finacial disaster if that happens.


Bob

Plavan 05-30-2013 09:14 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by HKZ Bob (Post 7470293)
Poor Guy you don´t have a 996 or 997
How about a 964. Your life is treating you bad. I feel sorry for you.

I wish you all good luck. But uncool is if replica wheels are being sold and nobody knows about if a design patent is existing or not.

And then complaining of the China Copy Paste mentality.

The poor buyer has a finacial disaster if that happens.


Bob
Spoken like a true "Douchetard". Apparently you have not seen my small car collection. All valued much more than a 996/997, and especially a 964.

No need to feel sorry for me, I'm living the life.

Back on topic-
Can't wait for the 17's!

BRAIDusa 05-30-2013 09:27 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Plavan (Post 7471024)
Spoken like a true "Douchetard". Apparently you have not seen my small car collection. All valued much more than a 996/997, and especially a 964.

No need to feel sorry for me, I'm living the life.

Back on topic-
Can't wait for the 17's!
Now, now boys. Please.

Toby930 06-14-2013 03:55 AM
Looks like the 17" are priced on the Braid website now.

What's the current ETA? And are these made to suit the 930?

Thanks

PcarPhil 06-14-2013 04:14 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BRAIDusa (Post 7366456)
7x17 et+39
8x17 et+21
9.5x17 et+19
11x17 et+00
I don't quite get the offset of the 8x17 wheel. It's opposite of what was suggested earlier in this thread. Don't get me wrong - with mods the +21 wheel can work on the front of the aircooled 911s but if you're not going to go with a higher offset (like +25 or +30 for easier front fitment) why don't you at least use the stock (951 spec) +23.3 offset?

The flip side is I believe we have discussed that custom offsets will be available so there is still hope that proper fitting BZ wheels will be available!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaefer (Post 7136640)
Size and offset

8x17 +30
9x17 +15
9.5x17 +19
10x17 -15
11x17 0

Please keep in mind I have no affiliation with any wheel manufacturers. I'm just trying to help.

BRAIDusa 06-14-2013 06:06 AM
We need to get an order together of 80 wheels before they can go into production. We will need a 50% deposit to get on the list. Production should take 3-4 months once we place the order.

I'll check that 8x17 offset too.

PcarPhil 06-14-2013 06:29 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BRAIDusa (Post 7497988)
We need to get an order together of 80 wheels before they can go into production. We will need a 50% deposit to get on the list. Production should take 3-4 months once we place the order.

I'll check that 8x17 offset too.
Quote:
Originally Posted by brentrussell (Post 7139470)
I would take 40 wheels of mixed sizes.
17x8
17x9
17x9.5
17x11
Happy with offsets you have mentioned according to fitments and experience.

Regards

Brent
Quote:
Originally Posted by BRAIDusa (Post 7048295)
Sorry for lettting this thread go a bit quiet for a while. I was waiting for the factory to get back to me with prices etc and them blew my engine in our race car so a bit of scrambling ensued.

So the 17" BZ wheels are going to follow the same semi-forged manufacturing process as the current 15" and 16" range and prices are as follows.

17 x 7 $790
17 x 8 $842
17 x 9.5 $902
17 x 11 $989

The only details I haven't nailed down yet is what offsets to offer and when they will be available. Stay tuned.
Quote:
Originally Posted by BRAIDusa (Post 7048303)
I should mention, these are full retail pricing. I have in mind to offer a discounted price for the first batch of orders but I will have to talk with Pelican about the details of that of course.
Paul,

I suggest you send brentrussell a PM as he mentioned in this thread he'll take 40 wheels himself. I'm also in for a set (I'll email you to confirm a few details).

It looks like this is getting closer to reality!

BRAIDusa 06-14-2013 08:04 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaefer (Post 7498019)
Paul,

I suggest you send brentrussell a PM as he mentioned in this thread he'll take 40 wheels himself. I'm also in for a set (I'll email you to confirm a few details).

It looks like this is getting closer to reality!
Thanks Scott,

Brent and I have been talking.

sacoffee 06-22-2013 06:07 PM
Nearly $1000 per wheel?


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