Swb 1968 911 S project

[1967911s]

Torsion beam replacement becomes full resto!

I have some questions on correct front panel for year..

Current front panel has washer bottle hole inset is this right?

Also how do I link previous thread to this one?

[chris_seven]

Originally Posted by 1967911s

Torsion beam replacement becomes full resto!

I have some questions on correct front panel for year..

Current front panel has washer bottle hole inset is this right?

Also how do I link previous thread to this one?

No, the washer bottle hole came along in 1969.


One of the three front panels available is being sold as 65-68.

It is correct for your 1967 Car but is incorrect for a 65-Mid 66 car.

If you need a front suspension pan you will also have issues with the Dansk panel to do this job as the font control arm brackets for the 67 car don't fit correctly into this panel but is does just about work for a 69 onwards car. If you fit it to an early car without modification it will mess up the steering geometry.

The Porsche panel is about £450 + VAT.

We modify the Dansk Panel to work correctly.

There are some internal stiffeners also missing form this panel but they are easy to fit.

[JT912]

The '68 front latch panel does have the washer bottle hole. At least the US cars have them.

[chris_seven]

Originally Posted by jt912

The '68 front latch panel does have the washer bottle hole. At least the US cars have them.

Your must be right and it looks as if the change was at the end of 1967 so maybe most 68 MY cars have this panel fitted.

The PET does show the change as 68 Model Year.

I have an early 68S (RHD) which doesn't have the hole in this panel but I don't know its build date. It has been garaged for 26 years with a blown up engine and has very little rust.

OOps!

[1967911s]

url of initial strip down.
Early S Torsion tube replacement begins


hope this links to other thread.

Couple of questions:
what is the difference in the front panel beyond the washer bottle hole ? between a 1967/68 and later panels?

Can early porsche owners, please post pictures of b-post 'deep bowl' for rear lid release pull)

many thanks Rich.

[1967911s]

Is it possible that the hole came with the lwb model? Late 68?

I have ordered panel without hole but don't want to fit if this wrong part

[Rotmilky]

Originally Posted by 1967911s

Is it possible that the hole came with the lwb model? Late 68?

I have ordered panel without hole but don't want to fit if this wrong part

I have two 68 cars that I'm restoring--a very early 68S (I think October of 67) that does not have the hole and a very late Karmann normal (May 68 if I recall correctly) that does have the hole. Both are SWB and both look to have the original sheet metal. So I'd say it's reasonable for a late 68 to have the hole.

What I'm finding is that Porsche didn't strictly adhere to model years when making changes. For example, the early 68 has the two piece 68 dash, the 68 S elephant hide interior, but it's got that 67 and earlier screw on rearview mirror instead of the breakaway. I think Porsche used up old inventory if they had extra...or if they made changes and ran out of inventory, they had no problem swapping in 69 parts on late 68 cars. Another example, the early 68 S has the rear decklid with the pillar down the middle. The late 68 has the '69 only' decklid. So, Porsche started swapping those decklids in at some point in 68.

If you want photos of the two front panels showing both a hole and no hole, I can post them up. Good luck on the restoration.

--Von

[Series900]

The ribs change also, you will notice the spot welded bumper seal panel has drain or rectangular recesses to fit the"ribs". Early cars had no drain or rib indents . I concur on 68 having washer bottle hole.

[WaltherHa]

I have ordered panel without hole but don't want to fit if this wrong part

[1967911s]

Ordered part as didn't want to suffer delay on resto, workshop works two weeks on my car , two weeks on others ....

Thanks for all the feed back, car is fitted with panel with 'hole'

However my car featured in an article (from the 80's) where the writer talks about using modern parts to restore older cars.

My car was finished in December 1967 and sold January 1968 as a 68 spec car...

Sounds like whilst this may it be original it is at this point impossible to say categorically it is not....

Front end welding will be completed this week, any strong opinions please speak now!

Would be great to get further pictures of front bumper mount and front quarter pressings in this area.

I have ordered new brackets from restoration design, but there is little hint of what they should weld to...

... Pictures gratefully received

[1967911s]

Here are some pictures from previous restoration. Long before my ownership

http://www.nicholas-moss.co.uk/photos/Methusela-2.jpg


http://www.nicholas-moss.co.uk/photos/Methusela-3.jpg

http://www.nicholas-moss.co.uk/photos/Methusela-4.jpg

[1967911s]

Wanted pics of bpost on swb cars... Deck release post with deep dent for release handle

Thanks Rich

[1-ev.com]

Von,
You are absolutely correct, Porsche at that time were making cars as fast as they could, '68 is their biggest run, so they were using any inventory they have. Also, they have issues with fitting body parts together and some cars were having 2 VIN numbers. (VIN assigned during production next to the rear tunnel hole, then they return to body dep for fix, then they will assign a different VIN number later, that becomes an official VIN...)

I was worry about the rear decklid too, I've got without center bar 1st, then with center bar to make it authentic, then I've learned that it could be ether one... so I installed without center bar (its lighter...)

Originally Posted by Rotmilky

Another example, the early 68 S has the rear decklid with the pillar down the middle. The late 68 has the '69 only' decklid. So, Porsche started swapping those decklids in at some point in 68.

--Von