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sbmackie 11-30-2012 09:12 AM

help with analysis, please?
 
Symptoms: driving home from AX event a couple months ago; under braking, a soft "clunk clunk clunk" appears, right side of car. "Hmm" says I and pull off to parking lot. Take a look see, nothing loose or hanging, so back into car, no sound. Attribute to nothing and move on.

Do another AX event and a track day. Nothing unusual.

Yesterday out for a spin on a lovely day, start hearing same rhythmic (with speed) clunking noise. Starts faint, and infrequent, then gets louder and infrequent and intermittently firm and constant. Tried loading and unloading suspension, braking, etc. No change. Get home, take right rear wheel off, push pull wiggle, things seem tight. Spin hub and hear a rhythmic scraping noise from half shaft inner boot. AHA. So I push and pull half shaft in and out against spring pressure, put wheel back on...and no noise under load or braking.

Any ideas?

Scott

Ideas?

kodioneill 11-30-2012 09:27 AM

Year and model would help but it may be a failing C V joint or possibly broken emergency brake pad or spring.

kimlangley7 11-30-2012 03:30 PM

"clunk - clunk" to me says CV joint

ossiblue 12-01-2012 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kimlangley7 (Post 7123962)
"clunk - clunk" to me says cv joint

^^this^^

Nine9six 12-01-2012 07:38 AM

Search for "CV rebuild" or posts by "Grady Clay" if you want to DIY.
Hree is one such thread: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/306184-carrera-cv-boot-replacement.html

sbmackie 12-01-2012 04:14 PM

The car is a 1982 SC with 78K on the clock.

sbmackie 12-01-2012 04:21 PM

Forgot to mention: When I took the wheel off and spun the hub, I could hear a "tschick tschick tschic" that I THOUGHT was coming from the inner axle joint area. I'm assuming the E brake noise would be on the hub itself.

Other then buying the a new axle (in lieu of tearing down the old one and repacking, it IS 30 years old), what other bits should I get that I can't see from the outside?:

Thanks
Scott

HawgRyder 12-01-2012 04:44 PM

One of the quickest ways to determine a 1/2 shaft or wheel bearing failure that I have found is a sharp (slow) turn in each direction with someone walking beside the car listening for the sound.
Try it on the flat in a local parking lot .
It is the fastest way I know to pin down the bad side and determine if it is front or rear.
Bob

sbmackie 02-03-2013 03:37 PM

Update: So, had half shafts inspected at reputable tech, also looked at ebrake, tightened a couple loose whatzits, nothing else found. Drove home, no issues. Car parked for a month. Take it out tonight, after 60 minutes of suburban and freeway driving...the same noise. Isolate it to the right rear wheel. Not associated with clutch, whell or engine loading, or engine revs, just wheel speed.

Scott

mpetry 02-03-2013 03:44 PM

By "inspected" do you mean that they took the boots off ? Or just wiped off the grease.

Did you check / torque the inner and outer halfshaft attach bolts, with special washer ? The book says these are replaced every time.

If a halfshaft lets go at speed, it does a heck of a lot of damage.

manbridge 74 02-03-2013 03:58 PM

"Looked at ebrake"

Meaning they removed rear hub and expected springs/shoes?

sbmackie 02-05-2013 12:34 PM

Hmmm, those are both good questions. I'm assuming my trusted tech did torque and washer the bolts correctly. He said he "inspected" the ebrake. I will get clarification.

It just isn't consistant enough for me to think it's the half shaft.

80-911SC 02-07-2013 04:57 PM

the words "trusted tech" are sometime not one in the same ....

SteamWolf 02-07-2013 05:39 PM

here's another one from left field; the little plastic centre caps on my original fuchs are a little loose and one in particular makes this noise at low speeds LOL

afterburn 549 02-07-2013 05:40 PM

CV Joint.just go with it.Maybe a wheel bearing. Do all whilst there

bkreigsr 02-08-2013 04:39 AM

have you checked the inside of the wheel for a loose balance weight? are there any score marks on the caliper?
Bill k

euro911sc 02-08-2013 05:10 AM

clunking is also associated with a loose rear sway bar mount(s)...

afterburn 549 02-08-2013 06:03 AM

Its winter pull it apart
replace with new coil overs and freshen you suspension.
corner balllance

sbmackie 03-12-2013 06:29 PM

OK, did the axles, problem solved. Thanks for the input.

DRACO A5OG 03-12-2013 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sbmackie (Post 7325141)
OK, did the axles, problem solved. Thanks for the input.

Congrats, yeah ax and de really stresses our babiee, when I want to fix something, I take her to a de :eek:


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