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toddc 03-31-2013 05:41 AM

Happy Easter!

here are a couple of shots with the top polished and flanged, ready for tooling gel to be sprayed.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1364737232.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1364737269.jpg


For those on FB, you can also follow progression here: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.528239297218327.1073741831.512382765470647& type=1&l=e95f9ff365

lpsalsaman 03-31-2013 07:09 AM

Happy Easter to you as well! Wow looks like a mirror! Awesome work you guys, can't wait to see it in person at Hershey!

strikee 03-31-2013 11:02 PM

So from my understanding this will be a complete top, including frame? No need to butcher the old one? Tks Ed.

toddc 04-01-2013 02:27 AM

Correct Ed,

this will be a complete top with latches, guide pins and seals. We are also stamping the escutcheons for the cars that need to be retrofitted.

No butchering required :)

taymob 04-01-2013 01:33 PM

Todd, what do you expect the cost to be ? Roughly ?

boyt911sc 04-01-2013 02:28 PM

Hershey Swap Meet.......
 
Todd,

Would you have something available at Hershey? What stall # are you at? How do we find you there? Any phone number to call you? Thanks.

Tony

nineball 04-01-2013 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by taymob (Post 7363075)
Todd, what do you expect the cost to be ? Roughly ?

At this point we really can't quote a price. As soon as the tops are available we will have one ready but until the project has been completed we won't have one. We feel it is better to wait then to quote a price now only to have it change later.

Quote:

Originally Posted by boyt911sc (Post 7363191)
Todd,

Would you have something available at Hershey? What stall # are you at? How do we find you there? Any phone number to call you? Thanks.

Tony

We have spot E-43/44 at Hershey and we hope to bring a few of everything we make, with the possible exception of the targa roofs as they require significantly more time than the fuse covers, steering shaft covers or targa body braces. I will have my 83 targa (see below) there sporting the items we offer so it should be pretty easy to find us since most of the vendors there only have parts and not cars in their stalls. If you need to call us for anything please send me a pm and we can go from there.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ps7420c9d2.jpg

toddc 04-01-2013 05:45 PM

just to echo Kris's thoughts, I'm not setting pricing just yet. There are significant costs involved with this project just like any other turn key item. Tooling for skins, tooling for seals, tooling for latches, escutcheon plates, etc., the list goes one.

Once we have the protos done, we can amortize the costs of production over an "anticipated" volume and determine pricing from there.

What I will say is that this is a turn-key product that comes complete and will function as advertised. It's not a "me too" top or skin or what have you that you need to fuss with to make work.

In the mean time, we are busting our butts to make sure we have a variety of bits for show and tell at Hershey. Kris posted the booth number, we hope to see you there.

Boyt, if you feel the need to call, shoot me a pm and I'll give you the number.


Thanks all,

DanS911 04-01-2013 06:32 PM

Sub (sigh)

nineball 04-01-2013 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanS911 (Post 7363673)
Sub (sigh)


cheer up dan. in a few short months you can have a top for each of your targas :) maybe do one in cf and paint one just for the variety.

cdagnolo 04-02-2013 06:28 PM

Good stuff!
 
Wow, I have a Targa on a truck heading my way and happened across this thread! How cool is that?! It has some sort of aftermarket fiberglass top on it and it's just a track car but, man, I learned more about Targas here this evening than I've ever known! Thanks for the education and, cool to sense that there appears to be a bit of a sub-culture of Targas within the 911 community and that's great to see! SmileWavy

vulcan300 04-02-2013 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdagnolo (Post 7365479)
Wow, I have a Targa on a truck heading my way and happened across this thread! How cool is that?! It has some sort of aftermarket fiberglass top on it and it's just a track car but, man, I learned more about Targas here this evening than I've ever known! Thanks for the education and, cool to sense that there appears to be a bit of a sub-culture of Targas within the 911 community and that's great to see! SmileWavy

Those of us with Targas love them. Those without Targas mostly wonder what's wrong with us. Welcome to the club :-)

BlueSkyJaunte 04-03-2013 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by targamaniac (Post 7365625)
Those of us with Targas love them. Those without Targas mostly wonder what's wrong with us. Welcome to the club :-)

Some of us WITH Targas wonder what's wrong with us. :D

Actually, I drove several coupes and a couple Targas when I was P-car shopping. After bumping the top of my head in every coupe (sunroof or not) I ended up with a Targa.

nineball 04-06-2013 02:34 PM

top mold is done and the underside is being clay modeled as we speak.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3.../IMG_0465.jpeg

not only will we have the top but we are also reproducing the escutcheon plates, rear guide pins and an alternative to the side seals that will not require a metal plate and screws be installed. this really will be a plug-and-play item, and for those of you wanting to do some restoration work on folding tops we will have the above parts available at some point in the future (we modeled the rear guide pins from the set on my folding top).

jcc911 04-06-2013 03:30 PM

Whoohooo the excitement is back!..... Ok, it never really left.

mercman 04-06-2013 03:56 PM

cool, nice work.

toddc 04-06-2013 06:10 PM

clay modeling finished, model prepped, tooling gel applied.
All in a days work. or so :)
Next comes the layup of the mold itself. wish us luck;)


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1365300522.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1365300543.jpg

SCrescue 04-07-2013 06:26 AM

Great work Todd, it's been entertaining and insightful following the development of a much needed and desireable product. You are a true craftsman in a time of waning craftsmanship, kudos! ;)

Mike...:cool:

silverc4s 04-11-2013 05:22 AM

Great skills here.. Anxiously await final product announcement...

toddc 04-11-2013 05:46 AM

Thanks for the complements, it's always nice to hear.

Both mold halves done and curing. I anticipate opening them tonight and starting the prep for infusions.

I'll post up some pics when I do.

Barring anything unforeseen, we're on track for having the first part at Hershey.

We're in space E43/44, so stop by and say hello :)


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