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zippy_gg 02-25-2013 10:19 PM
I think I will get a set of these just for the heck of it, and I am sure I will find plenty of reasons to use them.

zippy_gg 02-25-2013 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by aigel (Post 7296689)
On second thought +1 on the 12 point Euro star tool. I have used that with great success on the 993's allen head screws holding some of the engine tin / accessories, when they were rounding out.

Edit: You need something that is close but just oversize. Then hammer it in.

http://www.metalnerd.com/images/prod...t05/mn0812.jpg

GL!!!
I think that's what Dennis was suggesting earlier. I believe I may have the right size, but the trick will be to have an extension thin enough to go through the HE tunnel...

tazzieman 02-25-2013 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by zippy_gg (Post 7296715)
, but the trick will be to have an extension thin enough to go through the HE tunnel...
Maybe you can weld something up like the factory tool Pelican Parts - Product Information: PEL-TOL-A10MM ?. Good luck!

timmy2 02-25-2013 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by zippy_gg (Post 7296715)
I think that's what Dennis was suggesting earlier. I believe I may have the right size, but the trick will be to have an extension thin enough to go through the HE tunnel...
Exactly what I was referring to. A long one like in the picture may reach right through the HE hole.
Sorry about the brevity of my post earlier, I was busy and just brainstorming for you.
Engine on a stand should make access easier. Also swinging a hammer... :)

zippy_gg 02-26-2013 06:37 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tazzieman (Post 7296718)
Maybe you can weld something up like the factory tool Pelican Parts - Product Information: PEL-TOL-A10MM ?. Good luck!
I have the correct tool, 8mm for this task Pelican Parts - Product Information: PEL-TOL-P243, but no room to weld...:(

Nathans_Dad 02-26-2013 07:58 AM
I think I'd try the star tool solution above, if that doesn't work then give JB weld a shot; maybe you'll get lucky. Personally I would try everything before I intentionally snap off a stud!

aigel 02-26-2013 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by timmy2 (Post 7296722)
Exactly what I was referring to. A long one like in the picture may reach right through the HE hole.
Sorry about the brevity of my post earlier, I was busy and just brainstorming for you.
Engine on a stand should make access easier. Also swinging a hammer... :)
I just chimed in to make sure you do NOT use the US TORX tool rather than the 12 point star tool. It will go in easier, as the teeth are not as tall yet there are plenty of them for grip.

If you are able to beat a tool in that has some grip, make sure you heat the nut really well. Red hot if you can. Then give it a go while leaning on there as good as you can!

G

techman1 02-26-2013 08:47 AM
The last one? Will the HE "turn" a little?are there any locating pins that prevent it from spinning?

tharbert 02-26-2013 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by zippy_gg (Post 7296637)
Keeping the HEs as my car is a cab and we'll be driving it up PCH and on evening rides with the top down...;)
I'm in the same boat. I haven't thought of a way to get to it yet either. Then, I have 5 broken studs to deal with. 40 years has not been kind to my exhaust hardware.

aigel 02-26-2013 09:04 AM
Time to cut up the HEs and get a nice set of SSI. Best of both worlds! :D

G

tharbert 02-26-2013 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by aigel (Post 7297311)
time to cut up the hes and get a nice set of ssi. Best of both worlds! :d

g
mfi... :(

zippy_gg 02-26-2013 10:19 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by aigel (Post 7297311)
Time to cut up the HEs and get a nice set of SSI. Best of both worlds! :D

G
Hey G, easy with my money! :D

DRACO A5OG 02-26-2013 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by zippy_gg (Post 7296648)
I can try and hunt down a long left hand drill bit. There is no room for a dremel flex. I'll try and take some pictures to illustrate the situation.

Gil, I rounded out my 190e head nut an used left handed hex nut/bolt extractor, do you want to try it?

let me knowSmileWavy

zippy_gg 02-26-2013 10:29 AM
Here is the beast...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1361906896.jpg

Here is the problem... Hint: look for the tiny red circle... Sorry about using MS Paint...

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1361906925.jpg


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1361906952.jpg

zippy_gg 02-26-2013 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by DRACO A5OG (Post 7297480)
Gil, I rounded out my 190e head nut an used left handed hex nut/bolt extractor, do you want to try it?

let me knowSmileWavy
Jim, I'd try anything at this point... Thanks!

KTL 02-26-2013 10:33 AM
Try a fluted/spiral easy-out extractor that you have cut/ground to a suitable tip size that you have to hammer into the stripped hex. Sacrificing the easy-out is the key to best grippage! This works great on head stud barrel nuts that are the bigger M10 size. So I think it'll work on the smaller M8 barrels too

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/911-engine-rebuilding-forum/722307-head-nut-stripped-3-2-a.html

DRACO A5OG 02-26-2013 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by zippy_gg (Post 7296713)
I think I will get a set of these just for the heck of it, and I am sure I will find plenty of reasons to use them.

just borrow mine ;)

zippy_gg 02-26-2013 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by DRACO A5OG (Post 7297495)
just borrow mine ;)
Jim, the guy who has everything! :D
Thanks Bro!

tobluforu 02-26-2013 10:59 AM
Time is money, post in the classifieds in regards to a used HE, then cut that one off.


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