New Porsches in Winter?

[shaunmbenson]

Hi Gang

I just went thru a break up and the ex got the Hyundai winter beater in the divorce.

I live in Toronto = lots of salt and snow in winter and I store my 85 911 during that time.

How do the newer - say 2010 and later - cars fare for corrosion/rust compared to my galvanized air cooled?

In other words would, say, a cayman be markedly better if I wanted to add that as a year rounder?

Thanks!

[rwest]

Winter is just so tough on cars beyond just the body corrosion... scratches from brushing and scraping off snow and ice, paint chips, more chance for accidents and rust on small bits etc.

The car will hold up well, but for value lost, getting another beater would be much cheaper.

[rwest]

Oh, one more thing is you would probably want snow tires.

[piscator]

I would think it depends on what you enjoy driving. I drive my truck when the world gets all snowy, but I love driving my truck. Personally, I wouldn't drive a 'beater' I didn't like, simply because of inclement weather. Then again, I don't live in a highly populated area and that probably makes a difference; in terms of parking, other cars, etc.

[rattlsnak]

First of all, congrats on the break up and ditching the Hyundai!


and second of all,.. I would like to congratulate @rwest for winning the internet today by inserting a long stading Pelican joke into a thread where it actually makes sense!!! Well done sir!! !! ROFL!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by rwest

Oh, one more thing is you would probably want snow tires

[ADDvanced]

I bought a 60hp 2000 Honda Insight for winter duty. Aluminum frame. Aluminum control arms. Aluminum subframes. Purchased with 180k on it, and a dead IMA battery. Installed a grid charger ($200) and that brought the battery back to life. Most people think hybrid batteries need to be replaced when they stop working, wrong, the packs are likely just out of balance. Grid charging = tricklechargint eh cells so each stick is balanced, so it works again.

I get about 52mpg with snow tires, with my summer tires I get 60-70mpg. The fuel savings has paid for the car itself already, so at this point I'm just going to drive it into the ground. No timing belt either, it's a timing chain. Currently at 260k, runs awesome, no leaks, everything works. It's an amazing second car.

[OsoMoore]

I have a friend who picked up a 944 for his winter beater. He repaints it with a rattle can when necessary, and it scratches the itch without endangering his '80 SC.

[Jgordon]

Black Audi Wagon.

[GH85Carrera]

No car of any sort will last long in winter driving where the roads are heavily salted. We spent a week in Michigan one summer. It was astonishing to see some of the salt damage to cars that were fairly new. The top of the car looks nice. From the door handles down it looked like they had been dipped in acid. Huge rusty holes in door bottoms and fenders.

[LUFTKUL]

It is unbelievable the condition of vehicles Michigan allows on their roads. It's like zombie cars from a junkyard came back to life roaming the streets with nary a rocker panel to be seen.

Salt states require a disposable winter car.

[Bob Kontak]

Originally Posted by LUFTKUL

It is unbelievable the condition of vehicles Michigan allows on their roads. It's like zombie cars from a junkyard came back to life roaming the streets with nary a rocker panel to be seen.

That's racist.

Ohio has awesome street cred right up there with Michigan.

[darrin]

Originally Posted by piscator

I would think it depends on what you enjoy driving. I drive my truck when the world gets all snowy, but I love driving my truck. Personally, I wouldn't drive a 'beater' I didn't like, simply because of inclement weather. Then again, I don't live in a highly populated area and that probably makes a difference; in terms of parking, other cars, etc.

This -- Seems the key here is what to enjoy driving in bad weather -- even if impermeable to rust/corrosion/dents/dings, not sure that a cayman is optimal for snow/ice -- either from a traction or clearance standpoint. OTOH, our galvanized cars work great in cold/dry/clear weather when equipped with the right tires.

SO . . I'd focus on getting a vehicle that's interesting enough to distract you from not being in your air-cooled when the weather/conditions are bad for your air-cooled (salt, ice, etc.(), bulletproof enough to shrug off all that stuff and depreciated enough to be expendable if/when it falls victim to the tin worm.

In my case, that describes our 2004 vw Touareg v8 perfectly -- its value's depreciated to somewhere around $4k, it was built on the same assembly line and uses many of the same parts as a cayenne and is surprisingly entertaining to drive, it'll take me though anything and I'm comfortable parking it anywhere. Only concern is that, given how far it has depreciated, a relatively minor repair could easily exceed its current value . . . even a tire change gets close (and it gets POOR gas mileage . . .)

[ADDvanced]

This is why you guys need to find out about insights.

Aluminum chassis! Aluminum subframe! Aluminum suspension! Only thing that really rots out is fuel lines and brake lines.

[faverymi]

I drive a 996 and a boxster in the winter

They have not desintegrated

They are cheap. I only live once

The other stuff stays garaged

Buy one and enjoy it.

[seafeye]

Cayenne S or better find an old Turbo. They have piston squirters, all wheel drive and can be had for $10,000. Good for hauling your toys around.

[porsche930dude]

If its anything like a modern audi or vw they are pretty good compared to cheaper cars. my brothers gti and moms audi a4 are 20 years old and have no body rust. the gti has a bad rocker but its been replaced in an accident and didnt get the factory rustproofing. The brakes suspension and subframes on the other hand look like they went down with the titanic. but they still work

[reachme]

old Cayenne or Cayenne turbo any day

[shaunmbenson]

Thanks everyone

I have been away from internet awhile since posting thread

I’ll lett y’all know what happens come late fall!

[GaryR]

Want to have FUN driving in winter? Get a Subaru STI that hasn't been ruined (modded) by some kid..

[darrin]

gotta say, though, my '86 targa with snow tires was a BLAST to drive here in Denver for many-a-snowy-winter.

Although it's currently at the body shop getting a glass-out respray necessitated by some needed rust repair on the rear driver's side rocker area, the rust issue stemmed from a mediocre repair job caused a parking lot hit and run just behind the driver's door (kidney bowl area) many years ago. The repair site apparently lost its galvinization during that botched repair, but my targa was otherwise in surprisingly good shape corrosion-wise despite being a daily driver in snowy/winter weather for several decades (and 160k+ miles) -- was judicious about taking it to wand car washes and spraying the hell out of the undercarriage and wheel wells several times each winter -- which left the carwash bay floor brown with sand/etc. when done.