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Dave Colangelo 05-01-2013 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by winders (Post 7416668)
Dave,

This is incorrect. Any chassis with 930 in the VIN is a 911 Turbo (or some turbo variant). Even the "Turbo Look" models had a 911 VINs.

The 930 chassis had raised and extended back inner pickup points for the trailing arms. The rear pickup points for the A-arms was relocated higher as well. The "Turbo Look" models shared these revised pickup points.

Scott

Thank you for clarifying, the only reason I said that is because I have heard people refer to all impact bumper cars as 930's. More importantly the both the turbo and non turbo engines have a part number beginning with 930. 930-100-221-00 was the coupe/targa engine, 930-100-221-01 was the cabrio engine (dont know why the cabrio had its own engine, I assume it has some thing to do with mounting) 930-100-266-04/930-100-268-04 was the Turbo engine. However after a closer look at the parts catalog you are correct that the chassis part number for the non turbo starts with 911, for some reason I thought they all began with 930.

Regards
Dave

winders 05-01-2013 10:00 AM

Dave,

A 930 is a 911 Turbo, period. I have been around these cars, mailing lists, and forums for a very long time and, until your post, had never heard anyone refer to a normally aspirated (1974 to 1989) 911 as a 930.

Porsche used the stronger 930 engine cases in the normally aspirated 3.0L engines starting with the Carrera 3.0 in 1976. That doesn't give one a reason to call any of those cars a 930. Certainly the 1974 to 1977 2.7L engines used engine cases with a 911 part number. So there is nothing "930" about those cars.

Scott

Dave Colangelo 05-01-2013 10:13 AM

I must admit that its not the people on these forums that call them "930's" every one here is well educated on that stuff. It is mostly people who i talk to in passing. Ill say oh I have one of those 78 911's and they will come back with "oh one of those 930 styles I loved those as a kid".

Regards
Dave

Starless 05-02-2013 03:35 AM

I'm from Alicante, Spain. There we refer to it as a nou-cents onze ( we speak Valençia, similar to Catalan ) which is nine hundred eleven. For what it's worth.
And i've always wondered why Porsche couldn't use the 901 number when Ferrari used the 308. Peugeot had no problem with them using a 0 in the middle?

McLaren-TAG 05-02-2013 03:45 AM

I'm a native Spanish speaker, but lived in the US most of my life. Wasn't sure if in Spanish they used novecientos once or nueve once.

Starless 05-02-2013 03:50 AM

Not sure what the Castillian speaking Spaniards call it, but I'm pretty sure it's also novecintos once.

dienstuhr 05-02-2013 05:14 AM

I thought "240Z" was pronounced "twenty-four ounce"...!

Quote:

I believe the O in the middle of the number was not really a zero, but a hole to put the crank in, dating from the time where old Peugeots were started by hand.

mr911er 05-02-2013 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob Kontak (Post 7415756)
The Porsche 911 (pronounced as Nine Eleven or German: Neunelfer)

See 7 seconds in:

"nine hundred elf"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dnkvafg_Vv0

neunhundert is the translation to german on a language translator - does sound like nine hundred, though.

I have a copy of this series - looks good but cant understand a word of it (well maybe one or two words...)

Anyone know where there are subtitles/a translation available?

Cheers

Kevin

Bob Kontak 05-02-2013 06:31 AM

Anyone know where there are subtitles/a translation available?
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I love that series. I wonder if there is an audio translator somewhere.

Like the scene at RUF where they guy uses huge torque wrench for the cam nuts.

Hawkeye's-911T 05-02-2013 08:19 AM

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By s_morrison57: its a Zed 28 and a 240 Zed.
Hear Hear - Good point.
Cheers
JB

DanielDudley 05-02-2013 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Starless (Post 7418518)
I'm from Alicante, Spain. There we refer to it as a nou-cents onze ( we speak Valençia, similar to Catalan ) which is nine hundred eleven. For what it's worth.
And i've always wondered why Porsche couldn't use the 901 number when Ferrari used the 308. Peugeot had no problem with them using a 0 in the middle?

It was the 901 until Chuck Norris bought one. He doesn't allow zeros in his cars.

proffighter 05-02-2013 11:29 PM

As a german speaking we say sometimes "Der Elfer" sometimes which means "The Eleven" as male...

Because der is only one, no need for the nine :-)


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