Rant/ weigh inn

[afterburn 549]

A while back there was a "whats you car weigh" thread...My rant is this,- I would like to see a HONEST post of your weights not just a guess, with a list of deletions and additions and as a "discipline" if you are called on it you must be with in 10 lbs or a buy the call ee a case of his favorite beverage, be it wine beer champagne..so if you subscribe to this thread with your weight...dont do it spontaneously...think about it, do a nice little paragraph how you got there....and be prepared to back it up. I dont want to see my car weighs 2500 lbs with the simple addition of RS seat covers......it takes a bit of thought and improvising to get these dwn to 2200 lbs ( my goal )
and remember if you post...be prepared to back it up !! Lets have some fun!!!

[DW SD]

This is outdated info since I updated to a 3.6. I guess I cannot participate in your clever drinking scheme. I think you can call this honest data, though. Up to you to accept.

The weight was 2260 lbs at corner balance by verified racing scales. (see photo) Driver weight of 200 lbs is included as is full fuel tank 16 gallons ~ 100 lbs and full oil tank.

Body = 1971 tub & details:

• Turbo metal flares, front and rear – butt welded.
• Fiberglass Hood, Bumpers, Ducktail all TRE products
• The tub has also been modified with TRE’s pan modification to allow more air flow behind the oil cooler.
Suspension
• Front – lengthened a-arms (+15mm), raised (30mm), gusseted spindles on Bilstein struts w/ custom valved Bilstein inserts, Tarett, annodized adjustable sway bar, 21mm Torsion Bars, Tarett offset monoball camber plates, Tarett polished AL strut tower brace. Elephant racing control arm poly-bronze bushings and ER control arm mounts.
• Rear – ER torsion bar polybronze bushings, ER, monoballs, 30mm Torsion Bars, custom valved Bilstein shocks, Tarett adjustable sway bar
Wheels
• Front – 17x9.5 - 2 piece, BBS barrel with welded 16” Fuchs center made by Mike Lindsey. 255x40 Kumho MX street tires are currently installed.
• Rear – 17x11 same as front w/ 285 40 Kumho MX street tires
Brakes
• 1986 rebuilt Carrera calipers and rotors, new 19mm master cylinder
• stock 1986 Carrera 3.2L. Exhaust is upgraded to Ssi’s and a sport, lightweight, stainless, dual outlet muffler.
• 1986 915 transmission.
• I added a 72 row Mocal oil cooler inside of the front bumper by fabricating custom mounts, due to extreme space restrictions inside of the bumper. I plumbed all of the braided stainless lines and thermostat.
Interior
• SPARCO Evo 2 seats w/ custom fabricated lightweight mounts, harnesses, RSR rollbar – installed with welded-in base mounts, RS Perlon carpet with rear seat delete. Delete ventilation system, except defrost. SPARCO Ring, steering wheel and quick release hub. Rennline Annodized AL floorboard and matching dead pedal. Sun-visor delete.
• Removed extra wiring to save weight. Stripped wiring harness down to necessary circuits, only.
• Relocated battery to smuggler’s box. Built custom stainless battery box and built custom wiring harness for moving the battery. Installed lightest, smallest costco battery.

[afterburn 549]

DW SD thanks for getting us off to a calibrated start ( no worries we all dont need corner scale pics to enter this ) thanx for the info and scale weight esp. with full fluids.....as how dose one run w.o. them ?? Great Job !!

[Formerly Steve Wilkinson]

Everybody's probably already thought of this, but where I live, if you take garbage to the county dump, you drive in and park on a big scale. Drive out after emptying your garbage and they weigh you again and charge you per pound of garbage. I haven't yet bothered to do it, but I suspect I could just do a U-turn and ask them to tell me the car's weight. Best case, they'd laugh and tell me. Worst case, they'd charge me the dump's $5 minimum fee. They're both way cheaper and vastly easier than race scales.

[afterburn 549]

true enough, and/ commercial truck scales at weigh stations ( when there not open) is all good enough for me. I am just trying to get a accurate cross section of "whats" out there and we all can learn from ea others tricks if no one cares.

[LakeCleElum]

In our state (Washington)....you can pull into the truck scale house when it's closed. They leave the scales on and you can read your weight thru the window....Diet starts tomorrow......

[jorian]

I think there is a link somewhere on widebody's site that calibrates the weight savings of deletions. I'll try to find and post.

[jorian]

Found it.

http://66.34.72.138/index.html

From Thom's site.

[afterburn 549]

I dont care how you weigh it (as long as it is a real set of calibrated scales ) I just dont want to see all these light weight cars with no deletions mentioned.....So no drunk scales, no embelleshed numbers. Cause ya got a set of RS america seat covers dont make ya 2000 lbs

[afterburn 549]

Hmm As for mine 1975 S. 2.7 / 915 = 2270 lbs (full tank )
Deletions as best I can remember-no spare and jack, bumpers for F.G. with no crash stuff, window reservoir and pump, pan under steering rack, custom home made exhaust, lexan rear window, no rear seat backs and belts, no rockers and rubber trim, no rear fan, (Made a backdate heater ) drilled rear Eng support,no pwr ant., Pc 680 for what evr was there, charcoal canister, Gottie wheels. R rear lts.
thats w.o. me , I am at 190 lbs

[Carrera3.5L]

Originally posted by Formerly Steve Wilkinson
Everybody's probably already thought of this, but where I live, if you take garbage to the county dump, you drive in and park on a big scale. Drive out after emptying your garbage and they weigh you again and charge you per pound of garbage. I haven't yet bothered to do it, but I suspect I could just do a U-turn and ask them to tell me the car's weight. Best case, they'd laugh and tell me. Worst case, they'd charge me the dump's $5 minimum fee. They're both way cheaper and vastly easier than race scales.

EDIT: In my experience, the local landfill's scales are completely inaccurate for this...

I thought it would be interesting to see what their scales said relative to my corner balance scales just as a comparison. They told me my Carrera weighed 2,400 lbs with me in it, yeah right! At least I didn't have to pay anything!

The car's actual weight is 2,600 lbs. without me in it and with the gas light on. You can search for the info that lists the 200+ lbs. that I have already deleted from the original 2,880 lb. weight with a full tank of gas but no driver.

Ralph

[Emission]

I am the fat guy that will make you all feel much better (well, at least my car is).

My baby weighed in at 2,965 at her corner balance. I pulled the A/C, so I estimate she is about 2,940 right about now.

Oink!

[afterburn 549]

well you see, your not the fat guy...maybe a more accurate guy then the last thread that was going on here .....it was pretty uhhh embelished ? elongated ,egg shaped ideas on what the cars weighed. So that my frind is why I apreciate your honest weight no mater what it is.
Now lets all weigh in ! ( certified scales please )

[randywebb]

You may be a candidate for the Church of Light (Weight).

[911pcars]

Is that vehicle weight with or without driver? Could be a big difference or a big spread (pun).

Sherwood

[afterburn 549]

W.O., and I edited the post, sorrry. What is church of light weight ??

[randywebb]

I founded the Church back in the daze of the Email only PorscheList (or was it RennList by then?) and serve as its moderate. It is a Church that is dedicated to, and worships, Light Weight -- in 911's yes, but also as a design principle (it helps if you study birds).

Colin Chapman, various Porsches with the first name starting with an F, and Gordon Murray are Saints.

Thom has posted the Church's database of 911 wt. info on his web site, and I think he is alcolyte or something.

Send donations to:
Church of Light (Weight)
666th Floor - Metro Towers
Greater Metroplitan Nimrod, Oregon

The Church is not registered as a 501 organization but might enjoy fighting the IRS just for the hell of it.

[ianc]

I had my 87 sunroof coupe corner balanced at S-Car-Go in San Rafael, and the weight was 2745 lbs. with a half tank of gas and me not in it.

I have since gone to a set of Recaro speeds and the weight difference between these and stock is about 50 lbs (weighed on bathroom scale), so I'm guessing it's right around 2700 now.

Car has the AC removed (including hoses and compressor bracket), no tools or jack, and ER hollow torsion bars (about 6 lbs or something negligible). The tail was also removed for a savings of about 25 lbs.

Probably another 50-100 lbs. could be had by installing a smaller battery than the monster Interstate, ditching the huge windshield washer tank and maybe something with the rear seats, but it gets harder beyond that...

ianc

[911pcars]

For the benefit of those not familiar with Jim Calzia's data when I was webmaster awhile back:

http://www.early911sregistry.org/jCalzia.html

Sherwood

[Eric-325I]

My stock '79 SC with tail wieghed 2650lbs on my employers certified scale (to within 20lbs) just after purchase with: half tank gas and minus the smog pump, tool kit, and myself. Best weight loss has been myself at minus 10lbs and 5 more to go from 190 to 175... treadmill :-)

Slowly loosing weight this fall and winter (the car)... Working on becomming a member of the Church myself... cheap hp :-)