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Is the Wurth Matte or Gloss black correct to refinish Carrera Fuchs?

Want to refinish the Fuchs on my Carrera and wondering what supplies you all would order from our gracious host vs buy at home depot. I should say I'm looking for an excuse to order some stuff as I need some tiny bits and pieces that don't make sense to buy alone.

Matte?
Gloss?

From what I've read here and seen, the finish seems like its more of a satin. Are either of these correct?

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Rustoleum 7777 Satin Black
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Like this?
http://www.amazon.com/Rust-Oleum-7777830-Satin-Enamels-12-Ounce/dp/B00166QNGW/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1366903862&sr=8-2&keywords=Rustoleum+7777+Satin+Black
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wurth matt black lacquer.
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r-mm, use the Worth matte black. You won't be disapointed.
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I did some other bits & pieces with the rustoleum and it looked great, but for wheels I would probably cough up the extra dough for the Wurth. But people here have used both with great success. Just stay with the satin finish IMO. Glossy is too, well, glossy :-)
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Well I called Pelican and they confirmed that neither Wurth product has the 'correct' gloss level, which I think is important to get right. I don't need perfection in the application, this is a driver, I just want a deeper black than I presently have on my chalky wheels. I'm inclined to give the Rustoleom or something like this a shot: Satin Black Wheel Paint 12 oz Aerosol

Can anyone share their prep / priming steps? Did you take the petals down to bare metal?

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I did some other bits & pieces with the rustoleum and it looked great, but for wheels I would probably cough up the extra dough for the Wurth. But people here have used both with great success. Just stay with the satin finish IMO. Glossy is too, well, glossy :-)
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First time I repainted my centers, I used a can of Krylon satin black, as I already had a can on the shelf. Looked correct and nice. I'm refinishing them again (Fuchs faux-anodizing - what silver paint?) and am using the Rustoleum #7777 satin black. Also looks correct to my eye. So I'm guessing that most any decent quality satin black should be OK for a driver.
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There seem to be a lot of votes for the Rustoleum option. I had a very good experience with VHT's wrinkle finish for my Alfa twin cam valve cover so this is also an attractive option: VHT SP183 Satin Black Wheel Paint Can - 11 oz. : Amazon.com : Automotive
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Well I called Pelican and they confirmed that neither Wurth product has the 'correct' gloss level,
i guess they don't have the matte black lacquer then. it's perfect.
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They do have the matte black (I linked to it above...) but I was told its less glossy than the factory finish.
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Wurth makes (or made?) three different levels of gloss in black - matte, satin and gloss. I'd always thought the satin was the correct one for this. Griot's used to offer a nice German satin black, too. But I no longer see it on his website.
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matte is not flat. it has a slight sheen.
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Got started stripping my wheels. Used a gel stripper and variety pack of wire brushes along with some scotch bright. Took a number of passes for sure but got two done in about 2 hours.
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Are you trying to retain the original anodizing? I thought mechanical removal of paint with wire brushes would remove the anodized coating?
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I am trying to keep the anodizing on the rim and repaint what was previously painted. I'm not using power tools and trying to be careful around the rim.

If the paint was previously applied on anodized metal... well it won't be anymore.
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My 87 GP white coupe but with factory option white wheels.....My first reaction was to paint them black when I first got the car, white is absurd on wheels, or just stupid, but after some time I came to like them even though they are a PITA.
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wurth matt black lacquer.
That's correct. The Rustoleum 7777 is NOT the correct match. It's too glossy. I've used it and compared it to brand new factory Fuchs. The correct finish is matte, not satin.
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I am trying to keep the anodizing on the rim and repaint what was previously painted. I'm not using power tools and trying to be careful around the rim.

If the paint was previously applied on anodized metal... well it won't be anymore.
Cool! My Fuchs are a bit dinged up as it is, but after 26+ years they still clean up pretty nice with some Vaseline. Your wheels look to be in much better shape than mine. Look forward to watching your progress.





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Will 1 can of Wurth matte black cover all 4 wheels, or do I need 2 to be sure I have enough paint?
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