Can a backdated 911 be had for under $30,000?

Tony - your car was a steal, much like the low mile 996 I got a couple months ago. But deals like ours are exceptions.

[bluetick]

I really like the IROC look and you don't have to have the turbo flairs for the effect.

If anything ever happens to my '71, I'll get an SC or Carrera and put FG bumpers and a tail on it....

Yea, the long hoods are in style now, but there are other options out there.

This is generally what I plan to do next with my '79 SC. The paint has it flaws and I may have an opportunity to get a good paint job for a discount price.

The plan is to delete the impact bumpers and add FG replacement RS "S" front bumper and RS rear bumper, glass out respray (need a new windshield anyway), and maybe a few other little details such as radio antenna delete. I'm keeping the existing whale tail deck lid (new decklid would blow my bare bones budget).

I'm hoping to get this all done for under $3,500. I should find out in a week if it is workable.

On anothet note... as far as the a/c goes, it is all a matter of perspective. The car is a semi-daily driver and track toy. The a/c works better than the one on the H-D next to it in the garage. Future dieting will likely include an a/c delete.

[deathpunk dan]

If I was going for fast and fun but wanted modern amenities...there are low mileage 2.7 Caymans in the mid 20s.

245 bhp in a 2800~ lb car is fast enough for me, and then some.

[Nick Triesch]

I think it may be time to add another section to the forum...We need a new one for people who want to chop and backdate. Seems to be getting very popular. And then maybe a new classified section for the less expensive backdated cars.

[rockyraccoon]

So the consensus seems to be that $30,000 isn't quite enough to get something done properly.

This 84 3.2 just popped up today and I think it's a great looking car. What do you guys think about the price? I wouldn't be able to test drive it. I'd have to have a local shop do a PPI and have it shipped.

http://www.grautogallery.com/details.php?id=311&page=1&year=&make=&model=&pr_id=&search=

[awdbandito]

"Properly" is a very gray area.

I just did a back date on a hot rodded '75 and it is almost ready for paint.
The front bumper is mounted using stock hardware, and the hood is held down with hood pins in order to avoid replacing the front latch panel.
The rear bumper is "quick detach" using custom mounts.
I built it to be light and quick.
Given my goals it is done "properly" but to many it is a bastard car.

Rocky - Sent you a private message.

[Doug&Julie]

I'd be curious if TRE were to chime in. At one time (a few years ago) the claimed a "basic" backdate (exterior) with color change could be done for $10k. So if you could get a mechanically sound 911 for under $20k (I did this summer), you could do it. But like others have said, the details (i.e. the "slippery slope") can quickly push it over.

I can think of a few on this forum who did their own budget backdates and their cars turned out pretty nice. So it can be done.

..at least that's what I keep telling myself because I want to do the same!

[SalazarS2K]

Not affliated with this seller, but this car isn't that far from your budget assuming you like the color.

FS: 87 RS Clone

[TRE Cup]

Hello to all
Been following this thread for a couple days and there are a LOT of qualifiers on what the end product can look like.
An axiom if I might offer one: The devil is in the details ! The first 95% of any project is pretty much a known factor with regards to pricing and time. It's the last 5% of work that can take a LONG time to get it right.

That being said, one CAN do a 73 RS backdate to a 911SC for roughly $5k in fiberglass parts, seals, turn signals, grills, stripes. Depending on your bodywork skills, you might end up with a budget shop to paint it for another $5k. So there is the 10k figure for a very basic exterior conversion.

BUT... the devil is in the details. How well did you fit the body parts? Do you want to install proper aluminum trim? ($2300 inc chroming the door handles) , Proper full interior that is period correct ? ($10k and up) , Pro body shop doing all the fit, prep, compartments, color change, and high quality paint ? Add $20k to the bottom line. All new seals, weather stripping? Another $1000

there are more details of course. We have been seeing well done cars trading in the 35-80k range.

[zotman72]

I just came back from driving my upgraded suspension, no AC, Weissach ('80SC) tonight for the first time in two weeks. This was after living with my, "new to me"2005 997 C2S, as my primary driver for last three hot weeks here in Denver. Gawd my SC is primative. but I love it dearly neverthless! Any yes, I even have '72 Hot rod RGruppe special dead in the garage for a proper perspective. The SC is raw enough for me now, I recommend you get an SC and live with it for awhile before you feel the need to backdate it, --to that even kewler time look.... YMMV

[intakexhaust]

Remember those in the early 1980's and the rage was slant nose conversions? In the short future, I'm guessing more than a few 3.2 owners who backdated, will have regrets.

[quattrorunner]

Originally Posted by Mark Wilson

Really good SC or average 3.2 - $20,000
Early rear bumpers and center panel uesd - $700
New fr fenders - $3500
New S fr bumper - $1700
New frunk lid - $2700
Early parking/turn lights/lenses used - $700
Misc rubber/brackets - $1000
Repaint/fit panels/replace front slam panel/misc bodywork - $10,000

You may be able to find used panels, but shipping and bodywork will eat some savings.

Got my 77 for 8k
Engine work and stuff........never mind, I don't wanna play this game after all.
But let me tell you, it doesn't have to be. 40k car. For 30 you can have a wonderful long hood backdate.
But only if you do the work. Hope your good with a wrench and paint gun.
Might be better off finding it done. If I had the cash I'd get one finished but even then it wouldn't be perfect to my requirements.
It's complicated.

[Doug&Julie]

Originally Posted by awdbandito

I just did a back date on a hot rodded '75 and it is almost ready for paint...

Have you done a thread on your build by any chance?

[awdbandito]

Originally Posted by Doug&Julie

Have you done a thread on your build by any chance?

Here is one I recently started.
Another Backdate thread

Once I start to take it apart for paint I'll update and post up some pictures of how I mounted the bumpers and other little things
Right now it weighs in at 2140. I it took to Atlanta Motorsports Park last Friday and it is a hoot on track. It needs an external oil cooler bad though. It is a 2.7 with RS pistons, S cams, and webers.
It would get up to almost 240 in about 15-20 minutes of track time on a 90+ degree day.

[Doug&Julie]

Originally Posted by awdbandito

Here is one I recently started.
Another Backdate thread

Once I start to take it apart for paint I'll update and post up some pictures of how I mounted the bumpers and other little things
Right now it weighs in at 2140. I it took to Atlanta Motorsports Park last Friday and it is a hoot on track. It needs an external oil cooler bad though. It is a 2.7 with RS pistons, S cams, and webers.
It would get up to almost 240 in about 15-20 minutes of track time on a 90+ degree day.

Sub'd to your thread, thanks for the link. Good luck with the build!

[petrolblue83911]

I was going to send that same link, that Salazar sent above.

That car sounds like a pretty cool combo with somewhat longhood looks, but on a later galvanized frame, 3.2 power etc....with an asking price of mid 30's, that looks to me to be about the cheapest way to get into what you are looking for