Or how about :

taking molds from a 69T shell and popping a carbon graphite 911 shell out of the autoclave that weighs a couple of hundred pounds and then adding a mid engine RSR motor setup....

don't paint it - let the CG weave show through the clear....

plexi windows tinted to match the CG color....

maybe with 993 headlight and front fender shape...

Or even:

Just a 911 carbon graphite shell over a TIG welded aluminum frame with 3.0 RSR motor set up mid engined....

here it is...

My dream 911 would be a combination of the best of the original 60's 911 design, combined with the best of late 90's air-cooled, normally aspirated technology. It would go something like this...

69 - 73 coupe tub,
stripped,
lightened,
strengthened,
steel RS / RSR flares,
ceramic brakes
roll caged,
aluminum wherever possible - doors, lids, etc,
plastic windows,
minimum street level interior, NO frills allowed(i.e. radio, A/C, etc),
Fuchs wheels, or Jack's version for proper width
Then ADD...
3.8 Liter Cup car engine, six speed G50 tranny RWD ONLY
Target weight 2000 lbs, Target power, let's hope for 400
Then try to make the whole car look like a 73 RS / RSR.
What a blast it is to dream like this. Like being back in HS again... Thanks, Wayne, great idea..;)

Wow, everyone dreams big here. I think it would be cool to buy a rusty 914-6 or early 911 roller and rebuild it using all Pelican parts. It would save a P-car, generate plenty of technical articles or another book to expand our knowledge base, and you could use your employee discount to save money on it (you guys get 5% off, right?).

Barring that, I'd go with the1967 R idea.

Emanuel

Okay, I'll play ..... Since I'm actually building the car.

Phase one, POC HP class:

Early LWB chassis, no sunroof coupe
2.4 S spec motor
Lightened to about 2100 lbs
RS bodywork
Monoballs front and rear
21/27 tbars
Adjustable sways
Sway-away spring plates
Aluminum trailing arms
Bilstein Sports
Racing shells
Rollbar
Spartan interior with carpet, headliner, dash, basic door panels
'72 oil tank
Center fill gas tank
15 x 7/8 Fuchs
SC Brakes
Brake cooling setup
Fire suppression system
Lexan rear window
Elephant Racing oil lines/Carrera cooler

Phase two, POC V5 (maybe V4)

2.7 Twin plug
Close ratio 915
Limited slip
Trans cooler
2000 lbs

There are of course many other killer machines. I'm partial to 911R, 550s, and STs.

How about this:

Start with a Galvanized middle-year 911, backdate to early bumpers etc (like Jens' car) and then fit a 2.8 MFI RSR Spec motor with Warren's "Airport" geared 915 with 7:31 LSD trans.

RS or SC Guards, 16x7" & 16x9" Fuchs with painted petals, A032R tyres and 22/28 torsion bars with adjustable Konis. Fit an S or RS front spoiler, a ducktail and a muffler with twin centre exit pipes. Then, paint the whole deal in 993 "Vesuvio".

lighter faster cooler
 

http://www3.telus.net/962/

Now taking donations for the cause ;)

IROC

Scott.

P-THOMAS' car, but colour to taste (I wouldn't change it).

Except convert the MFI to EFI and MoTeC or Haltech (or whatever) for mo' driveability.

Okay, it would have to be some type of clone, but I think the looks of the 961 are the best:

http://www.car-care-porsche.nl/Pelektr/959/959cir.jpg

-Wayne

Starting with a 1968T.

Add,

Oil tank and cooler setup from a 72s
2.2 motor converted to high compression 2.5 short stroke with dual ignition.
Light weight interior and body panels
6 and 7"(r) wheels

Cadillac Gold Paint.

Uphere in the woods of NH at my shop the P/D Clone is where its at...built off a c4...in process, waiting for snow and I will race the wifes WRX up to the ski lodge. Now if I could clone the TT,watercooled,ride hieght etc...

Without going to extremes, Curt's '88/3.6 car comes to mind. Sure it isn't as lightweight as an early car, but you get a G50, long nose look, galvinized chassis, and a coke and a smile. Not a bad "compromise" for the real world...

But if we're dreaming, 959 Dakar setup. Or hell anything setup for offroad. I guess I've been watching too much rally tv...

961 would be interesting, but to do it justice, you would need to start with a C4, and while certainly doable with an unlimited budget, would be real expensive. Start with a less expensive base car, you can put that extra cash into the engine.

I have nothing against RS/RSR/IROC clones, (really like them in fact) but there are a lot of them around.

When is the last time you saw one of these?

http://www.pelicanparts.com/ultimate...ads/934_01.jpg

Drop an Imagine Auto Stage 3 "Big Bad" 3.3T in it. 375 HP at the wheels, should be adequate, and at only .8 bar it should last a fairly long time.

You could do the same thing with a narrow body car, and call it a CTR..

I like dreaming.

Tom

Ferry Porsche's 914/8.

I saw one of these up close. The epitomy of a classic 911.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploads/p7200255.JPG http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploads/p7200258.JPG

not quite from scratch, but in the newest motor trend there is a article on a 550 spyder replica made by beck. it looks pretty cool. says you can get one without engine, transmission, and front suspension for under $15,000. or a 2160cc 155 hp turn key version for under $23,000.

I would go for some kind of 550, I just love the classic styling. I also love that boxster propaganda video I got in the mail a couple of months ago w/ the old man that woke up from a coma and the 550 and the young guy in the boxster.

Stanley -

I agree with you - something light like the 550 beck spyder with a real Porsche powerplant. Maybe a 2.4 S or similiar - high revving flat six - 220 or so HP 1400 lbs... And you could do it without mortgaging the house. Sort of a poor man's lotus.

I think that's the way I would go...

I'll play.

<b>BODY</b>

I'd find a galvanized donor body and turn it into a '73 RS. I'd take it back to bare metal and polish and treat the panels so it looks like one of those chrome scale models, or one of those polished-aluminum Audis! If I did it myself, it'd probably look like a DeLorean! :D

I'd experiment with decals, but it might look better without them.

Also, I'd probably fit an F1-style undertray to the bottom of the car.

<b>ENGINE</b>

A flat-8 from a 908; MFI or EFI; Megaphones. The fitting of this engine, I think, would necessitate the removal of the rear seats, and as a result, it'd become a mid-engined car.

<b>SUSPENSION</b>

Coilovers and a custom made multi-link rear-suspension system, which should make it handle as well as a 993; big-ass sway bars.


Matt Holcomb
MFIWDP
<b>PRVC</b>
<b>BOHICA</b>
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1975 Mercedes-Benz 280SE
<a href="http://www.holscope.com/74Carrera2.7" TARGET="_blank">Dedicated Homepage</a>
<a href="http://www.holscope.com/74Carrera2.7/rebuild" TARGET="_blank">Engine Rebuild Homepage</a>
<a href="http://www.cheaterswayside.com/911/gallery.asp?sort=0&userid=127" TARGET="_blank">Porsche Owners Gallery Profile</a>
<a href="http://www.pelicanparts.com/cgi-bin/pmpre/pm.cgi?action=display&login=Matt_Holcomb" TARGET="_blank">Pelican Gallery Profile</a>

Unlimited budget?
A 917-30 for the track, or a 962 CR for the street. Who hoo!

http://wwwstud.fh-zwickau.de/~ao/s962cr/s962cr.htm

You guys do dream big.

I have more simple needs.

I'd do a '73 RS replica, using a '73 non-sunroof coupe chassis, a 3.6 with MFI, white with blue stripes/wheels, from a cosmetics standpoints just a simple RS clone.

Yeah, that would do it. I would drive it every day.

JimT,
I like the way you think...keep it simple. Too much flash and people might think its a kit-car. :D

Well, what would I create? I suppose I would create my '71 2.2T with added lightness.

Seriously, I would do a 790kg ST with 260 hp!

I vote for a 1972T based ST replica.

Body
1972 T for the oil tank
F/G ST flared fenders on the front
F/G ST flared rear quarter panels
F/G S-Bumper
911R F/G doors
Lexan windows all around
F/G decklid
Center-filler neck plastic gas tank (filler hole through hood for effect)

Suspension
31f/27r mm Smart Racing swaybars
Coilovers all around
ERP front suspension with monoballs
ERP rear springplate kit
Aluminum trailing arms with monoballs
AJ-USA Strut bar
Fikse/Kinesis/Lindsey racing 17" 9x11 rims
Hoosier/Kumho/Yokohama rubber

930 brakes all around

G50 Tranny with the right ratios
LSD
3.8liter motor with GE-80 cams, Motec FI, AASE springs, pauter rods, boattailed and balanced

Wrap it up in bright yellow paint with blue striping and I'll take it.

Rick

Wayne--
Jumping on late, just back from vacation. I can't believe nobody's mentioned a 959 replica, given the beauty and price tag of the real thing. Impractical to duplicate the car exactly, but how about a 959 body shell on a 3.6 turbo? Build it and we can negotiate purchase price.

How about a 912R with Gary Emory 911/4 motor.

Markus SmileWavy

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959 rep. 3.6 modified
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1106400857.jpg

Start with wrecked (but buildable 78-89 930).
Lightened to the max
minimalist interior
street rollcage
Lindsay 17" 3pc. Fuchs
coilover/ monoball suspension
PWR efi conversion
headers
Garrett turbo
large intercooler
stock exterior
silver or black respray

I'll play. Take a 993. Sawzall off the rear clip and attach a tube frame for mid engine layout. Install twin turbo. Cover it with a GT1 body.

Sounds crazy? Check out the Gunnar Racing website where they built a tube frame GT1. Pure p0rn.

One of these......

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1106413408.jpg

SmileWavy

Do you mean like this?

Just arrived 10/30/2008 ............

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1225834422.jpg



This is what it looked like at Beck........

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1225834518.jpg



It will get a 2.8 RSR type motor w Motec.

Should be a fun project.

Len@autosportengineering.com

SmileWavy

I just finished my ground up!! What do I do next!!!!????


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1225844146.jpg

I would want a 904, 906, 908 replica maybe created from a very small portion of remains of another Porsche to claim a streetable "hot rod modification".

I am thinking of Henry's 66mm stroke 9000rpm screamer motor as the engine.
Make mine white with a few graphics.

these sounds spot on to me... but i'd also add a pristine, overpowered slant nose.

this sounds fun!!!

the style of the 911R is hot.

Man, that is like trying to choose among all the beautiful woman in the world.

Love the 911R, ST, RS, IROC, RSR 2.5, 3.0. They are all great.

Yellow Bird was the first that came to mind but under a 2.7RS body with 10" flairs out back.

Could be single Turbo. Could be a sequential trans. Would have to be light. No tunes, light weight interior. Could have 935 seat (s). Could have a ST seat on the passenger side and Recro Pole for driver.

Yes, a carbon fiber body with a peak of the CF on the roof panne.
RS 2.7 body, RUF sourced 3.8 twin turbo motor with inter-coolers hidden in the side panels installed.

Shoot, if we are dreaming have RUF build it.

Maeby with sequential shifter on the steering wheel.

Umm...I believe Wayne found his dream car about 1 yr. ago:

http://filmup.leonardo.it/speciale/f...orsche_959.jpg