Can you tell me what model/year is this car?

[jeankk]

Im a little confuse, it looks like a 964, but seller tells me is from 1986, can you tell?

[tonythetarga]

You want the VIN to be certain but the engine looks like a 3.2 Carrera and could be 86. The 964's were twin distributer and twin plugs, which means 12 wires and 12 plugs. The shifter looks correct for the 915 transmission and the A/C vents are the bigger style that came in in 1986. The only 964 details might be the bumper covers which are interchangeable and there are repro's that look like them too. The rears looks repro. The tail is incorrect for the n/a Carrera. That is a turbo tail.

[JAR0023]

Originally Posted by tonythetarga

You want the VIN to be certain but the engine looks like a 3.2 Carrera and could be 86. The 964's were twin distributer and twin plugs, which means 12 wires and 12 plugs. The shifter looks correct for the 915 transmission and the A/C vents are the bigger style that came in in 1986. The only 964 details might be the bumper covers which are interchangeable and there are repro's that look like them too. The rears looks repro. The tail is incorrect for the n/a Carrera. That is a turbo tail.

Not much else to say that Tony hasn't already nailed down. 86 was the only year for the 915 trans and big A/C vents. -J

[tonythetarga]

OH yeah, rocker covers are 964 and the wheels are either Boxster or 993 twists.

[jeankk]

Originally Posted by tonythetarga

You want the VIN to be certain but the engine looks like a 3.2 Carrera and could be 86. The 964's were twin distributer and twin plugs, which means 12 wires and 12 plugs. The shifter looks correct for the 915 transmission and the A/C vents are the bigger style that came in in 1986. The only 964 details might be the bumper covers which are interchangeable and there are repro's that look like them too. The rears looks repro. The tail is incorrect for the n/a Carrera. That is a turbo tail.

thanks

[redstrosekNic]

The engine looks to be out of a 3.2 cabriolet.

[Craig T]

[tonythetarga]

Originally Posted by redstrosekNic

The engine looks to be out of a 3.2 cabriolet.

good eye on that little tip of the damper on the left!

[jeankk]

This is VIN number results:





Seems kind of frankestein car, Im outside US, in my country we don't have many options available in the market. What do you guys think?

[tonythetarga]

Thanks for posting. That does confirm the chassis is a 1986 model. The engine could be from another year. they made the 3.2 from 1984-1989. The engine number and type will verify what it is and what hp it has.
If you want to know more about the car, check this thread for info on where to find the engine number and engine type number.

911 motor ID question

[jeankk]

Originally Posted by tonythetarga

Thanks for posting. That does confirm the chassis is a 1986 model. The engine could be from another year. they made the 3.2 from 1984-1989. The engine number and type will verify what it is and what hp it has.
If you want to know more about the car, check this thread for info on where to find the engine number and engine type number.

911 motor ID question

Thanks for all your help, I really appreciate it, I will go now and check the car physically. If the engine matches, will it be a good idea making the conversion back to its original aesthetics?

[jeankk]

Thanks! I appreciate all the help, one question, if the engine matches with the car, will it be a good idea to restore the car to its original aesthetics?

[tonythetarga]

It all depends if that is what you want to do. I think the car is easily converted back to original look as you have a great start on that. You could even eliminate the tail completely as that was an option and just go back to a normal 911 look.
I don't think the car is a Frankenstein at all. If engine and trans and body all prove to be correct, the you are dealing with trim issues and nothing major. If this is a car you are considering buying, at least have the car inspected by a shop that knows something about Porsche. Check the compression on the engine. How many miles/km's on the odometer? Find out if there are service records. (oil changes, clutch, trans fluid replacement or any other work. Do you have an equivalent of carfax to check if it has ever been in an accident? A good shop can also see if there was structural damage. Check also in the trunk up front around the battery box, they can leak acid and rot through the floor. Lift up carpet in there and have a good look.

[jeankk]

Originally Posted by tonythetarga

It all depends if that is what you want to do. I think the car is easily converted back to original look as you have a great start on that. You could even eliminate the tail completely as that was an option and just go back to a normal 911 look.
I don't think the car is a Frankenstein at all. If engine and trans and body all prove to be correct, the you are dealing with trim issues and nothing major. If this is a car you are considering buying, at least have the car inspected by a shop that knows something about Porsche. Check the compression on the engine. How many miles/km's on the odometer? Find out if there are service records. (oil changes, clutch, trans fluid replacement or any other work. Do you have an equivalent of carfax to check if it has ever been in an accident? A good shop can also see if there was structural damage. Check also in the trunk up front around the battery box, they can leak acid and rot through the floor. Lift up carpet in there and have a good look.

I went to inspect the car.
Here are some photos, the car seems very well treated, no rust anywhere, no leaks, has complete splash panels. Only problems are odometer and clock not working.

Only being driven 1,000 km in the last 3 years, owner is very emotional about selling the car.

We dont have carfax here, but everybody seems to know about this car, only heard good things about the previous owners.

[Bristol]

Originally Posted by jeankk

Thanks! I appreciate all the help, one question, if the engine matches with the car, will it be a good idea to restore the car to its original aesthetics?

It's your choice, but I think those 964-style bumpers look MUCH better than what originally came on the car in 1986. If you like the way it looks, and I do, and the paint is good, then just leave it alone and enjoy it.

Kirk

[tonythetarga]

The engine looks dry with no oil leaks. have you started it up? If it has been sitting for a long time it may smoke a bit. Even if the odo doesn't work, what does it have for miles on the odo? How long has it not been working? You can get an idea about the miles based on that. If the price is right you should have a very good car. I have had 3 86's and the last one was purchased with 153,000 miles or 245,000 km's. The engine was still original and I drove it hard on the track for 5 years with no engine issues! If you buy it you should have the oil changed in the engine and transmission. Finding the right transmission oil can be tricky depending on where you are. Do not use synthetic transmission oil for the 915 transmission. You should identify what country or city you're in on your profile. There are Pelican members all over the world and sharing information on where to find the oil or service etc. Don't reinvent the wheel and use the network to help you. good luck!

[techweenie]

The rear bumper looks screwy because its a 964 part (or likely replica) but the tail lights and center reflector are 3.2 Carrera parts. The proper tail lights and center reflector are canted backwards and cover more of the top surface of the bumper.

The car has the wrong wheels. The turbo style wheels were never made in proper offset for the 3.2 Carrera chassis. Either they are aftermarket wheels with 'early offset' or 'late offset' wheels with spacers.

Please refer to the image of Dr Frankenstein's monster. Fortunately, the alterations are easily reversed, if costly.

[wildcat077]

If you are lucky enough to have the original engine,it could be a Euro version with 231 hp unless the PO added the side lights to the front fenders ...

Cheers
Phil

[CCM911]

What is up with that goop on the oil return tube? Honestly, if this car is not really cheap, I would pass. There is too much that has been modified.

[jeankk]

Originally Posted by wildcat077

If you are lucky enough to have the original engine,it could be a Euro version with 231 hp unless the PO added the side lights to the front fenders ...

Cheers
Phil

It is the euro version

Seller confirmed that PO changed flares and bumpers, has the original wheels and steering wheel stored.