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bob tilton 08-31-2001 08:17 PM

different keys???
 
so i figure it's time to address my ignition/door key situation.
non-original ignition key has the following info stamped on it:

-taylor USA, P79Bm measures 2 1/8" in height, works fine.

-non-original door key: ilco DM4, 1 7/8" in height, opens driver door, does not open pass door but can be inserted without turning.

-door handles are correct for the year.

i have read over the pelican article and suspect i will need to run thru the tumblers for the pass side.
i question why i have two different style keys as i thought i should have ONE key that fits all, correct? if so which key is incorrect? where do i get replacement keys? i've only seen blanks avail for '69+. even if i re-do the tumbler pins i would still have 2 different keys. what's the deal?
tia,
bob

TargaEuro 08-31-2001 08:24 PM

What year is it?

bob tilton 08-31-2001 08:37 PM

sorry, i edited that info out by accident. it's a '68 911L.

TargaEuro 08-31-2001 09:03 PM

Im stumped!! Maybe the small key is a valet key (Just a thought). We need others to post some opinions. I cant figure it out....TargaEuro

ScotMcLean 08-31-2001 09:29 PM

Your ignition uses the 70 on style key, while your driver's door lock uses the standard, though NLA/hard to find NOS, early style key.

I have blanks, Taylors & Ilco's, if you need them.

Scott
69 912 #23078
68 912 sunroof
67 912 project

ScotMcLean 08-31-2001 09:34 PM

Oh - and I'm sure you caught this already but your drivers and passenger locks are different (same early 65-69 style, but different tumbler patterns = different keys). The PO may have replaced one of the handles and lock assemblies. You can have a key made for the passenger's side pretty easily - even though that doesn't save weight on your key ring. Good Luck - Scott

rbeech 09-04-2001 01:06 AM

I went thru this key blank hassle a while back. I work in a hardware store and checked several suppliers for the correct blank, with limited success. The blank that came with the car is a Taylor P79B and works pretty well. I had the door handles apart and noticed this key wasn't getting the tumbler pins quite flush with the tumbler. I found that Ilco still makes a P79B blank, so I ordered a bag. They were too thick and needed to be filed down to fit into the lock. I did this and reworked the height of the sections of the key that raise the pins. The key works great. I am now planning to spend the big bucks for a genuine blank or two to make a good copy.

Scott, do you notice the Ilcos being too thick for the keyway, and are the Taylors any different? If you have a couple blanks that are a good fit, I would be interested in them.

Thanks
Ron
69 911E

RoninLB 09-04-2001 01:20 AM

call STODDARD

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RoninLB

rvanderpyl 09-04-2001 03:08 PM

Hey Bob

http://www.jaggraveyard.com/keyquest.htm

For keys for old Porsches, I just bought a couple for my 1968, they have pictures that allow you to check the size and if you e-mail they will measure things for you so you get the right key.

Robert

stormcrow 09-04-2001 05:38 PM

I went down to the local Ace Hardware store and had a couple made from the original. Have two sets of keys. One opens all doors and locks. One works just the ignition and door lock - used for valet parking.

Steve

bob tilton 09-04-2001 07:23 PM

thanks everyone, i bought several key blanks from scott (ck's in the mail). he sells them at a very realistic price. again, thanks for the info.
bob


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