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leverpuller 12-21-2013 06:32 AM

Fan won't fit without schiming. Help?
 
Hi all, my problem is somehow after cleaning, light sanding,and light buffing the fan shroud, on my work bench, I reinstall the alt. and the fan (still on the bench)and the fan is not even close to fitting without touching the housing. In my zeal to clean, did I scrape away to much dirt or something? After hours of angry trial and error I finally fit the fan without it hitting anywhere by making a schim to fit between the alt and the housing. Am I missing something here? After all it's the same alt and same housing. Any help would be appreciated .

mreid 12-21-2013 06:41 AM

Pictures please! This is a precision fit and usually when this happens it is an install/missing part issue.

kodioneill 12-21-2013 07:04 AM

Do you have the washer between the fan and alternator facing the correct way?

leverpuller 12-21-2013 07:15 AM

Yeah the washer was intack but there's nothing on the housing itself that I removed while cleaning and polishing ? I even cleaned the mounting flange with the six threaded holes. Weird.....

kodioneill 12-21-2013 07:21 AM

Intact ok but is it facing the correct way? There's a shoulder on the washer.

leverpuller 12-21-2013 07:42 AM

I'll check later I just got called to go to work thanks

leverpuller 12-21-2013 07:51 AM

Ps the reason I had the thing apart was to see if the brushes were bad because the last time my tach started bouncing all over the place, the mechanic replaced the alt. now 15 years and 60000 mi later it did it again. But the brushes looked find some wear on the armerture or rotor but not bad.but to test the alt I have to put it back and drive to the shop so I might as well get a new one

wwest 12-21-2013 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leverpuller (Post 7817555)
Ps the reason I had the thing apart was to see if the brushes were bad because the last time my tach started bouncing all over the place, the mechanic replaced the alt. now 15 years and 60000 mi later it did it again. But the brushes looked find some wear on the armerture or rotor but not bad.but to test the alt I have to put it back and drive to the shop so I might as well get a new one

Take a good look at the stator winding insulated supports, the insulation on mine were long sense burned away and thus I got intermittent stator phase shorting on bumpy roadbed.

Flat6pac 12-21-2013 09:31 AM

Sometimes if the fan is hitting the side you need to torque down on the alternator bolts holding into the housing. Tighten half of them and find the balance point that the fan isnt hitting.
Sometime you have to remove and spin in the housing but seating is the problem and response.
Bruce

Gogar 12-21-2013 11:58 AM

I agree that MOST of the time the problem is with the way the ALT is seated into the housing, not a problem with the fan on the shaft of the ALT.

Make sure the ALT is seated properly in the housing and then the fan should fit much easier.

leverpuller 12-21-2013 01:23 PM

I'm back and thanks for replying guys. We'll I broke everything down . What I see is the shoulder ( wider flange) was toward the bearing is this correct?

leverpuller 12-21-2013 01:26 PM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1387661148.jpg

leverpuller 12-21-2013 01:32 PM

A pic of the schim in placehttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1387661522.jpg

clarkd 12-21-2013 01:45 PM

I believe the washer needs to be flipped from how it is in your photo. The raised step needs to mate up with the inner race of the bearing.

leverpuller 12-21-2013 01:48 PM

Ok thanks , because I've looked in my books and nothing. I'll let you know.

Flat6pac 12-21-2013 04:13 PM

flip the shim but you still need to seat properly in the housing.
Bruce

john walker's workshop 12-21-2013 04:37 PM

nothing to do with the washer or the shims. the bottom of the housing looks crusty which will cock the alternator.

Jerome74911S 12-21-2013 05:37 PM

All of the above?

leverpuller 12-21-2013 06:05 PM

Thanks for the tips. I should have left the thing dirty. Though.....lol!

leverpuller 12-22-2013 10:08 PM

Now that everything is back together, I'm still experiencing the fluctuating tach needle. I tested the voltage and at 2k rpms I got 14.05 volts. I have an optima red that's about 5 years old to which I have not tested yet if it is the voltage reg will I have to get a new alt. or just the regulator


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