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javadog 12-23-2013 11:56 AM

Rearward weight bias, low center of gravity, smaller front tires (at least on the later cars) and you add less forward weight transfer from the lower grip available. It's easy to lock a front wheel in the wet, especially if the corner balance is off.

Then there's the lack of ABS, which would really help a 911 that doesn't have it.

JR

Porchcar guy 12-23-2013 11:59 AM

As said above....short wheelbase, wide tires, quick reaction times and a decent amount of power that is laid down quickly. Having said this... I love driving in the rain as long is the raod is not populated by other idiots :=)

McLaren-TAG 12-23-2013 12:30 PM

Not driving in the rain for me has nothing to do with rust and keeping the value of the car. It's got everything to do with my insane extreme performance summer tires that sacrifice every other season, so I can take off that extra tenth in an AX in a month without an R in it.

cali4sun 12-23-2013 12:32 PM

I'd probaby drive it in the rain if it ever rains!

wayner 12-23-2013 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marksearls (Post 7820183)
So I have always wondered why people on this forum say things like "hardly driven in the rain". Am I missing something here as I love driving mine in all weather and I have had an SC, a longhood and now a 964. All have been driven hard and as often as possible.
Thanks!

THIS

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun 84 Targa (Post 7820322)
I don't trust any windshield seal I haven't installed.

and this

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/686953-why-windshield-trim-should-regular-maintenance-item.html

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1341332098.jpg

porwolf 12-23-2013 12:48 PM

Why not drive your P-car in the rain?

It is simple. Water will get into all the hidden hollow spaces and cavities inside the body structure, one way or another. Once the cavities are wet inside rust will develop. Galvanized bodies will eventually succumb to rust just as un-galvanized ones, it just will take longer. It all depends how long you want to keep your Porsche. I have driven all my other Porsches, rain, shine, or snow. They all were my daily drivers but I kept them only for a few years. Rust was usually the reason why I switched cars. Now I have a 1979 Targa that started out as a daily driver but now is just a pleasure car with only 50,000 original miles, and it still is rust free having lived all its life in Southern California. And I want to keep it that way "forever". Therefore, no more rainy roads for my '79 Targa.

dad911 12-23-2013 01:20 PM

A single 4 letter word. Rust.

I have no experience with 993 and newer, and if I owned 996 or Boxster for the street, I'd have no problems leaving it in the rain.

But "galvanized" or not, DD 964s, Carreras, SCs all rust.

Competizione 12-23-2013 02:32 PM

I don't drive my Porsche's in the rain. Ever.

Nothing to do with rust / dirt / concours prep etc... With me, it's all about the experience - nice day = an enjoyable drive to somewhere planned; rainy day = projects around the house / garage or other.

I guess if I had a Porsche as a daily driver, I'd think differently but my cars are purely for enjoyment and great experiences.

hdrockerroller 12-23-2013 02:41 PM

My 83 911SC is completely rust free and I want to keep it that way.
So no driving in the rain ever, end of story. Everyone else can drive their car whenever they want to.

wayner 12-23-2013 02:45 PM

I started that rust thread above, but I still enjoy my Porsche rain or shine…:)

Some people are religious about engine maintenance. I am the same way with the body. Use it and maintain it and it will last forever.

SoCalSK8r 12-23-2013 02:50 PM

It barely ever rains in So Cal...and people drive like morons in the rain here so mine stays in the garage on rainy days.

marksearls 12-23-2013 02:57 PM

I get that we all drive our cars for enjoyment and want that to last. I guess it's a balance between longevity (rust prevention) and enjoyment. As I said in the first post, I enjoy driving in the rain and my 964 feels rock solid braking, cornering and all around driving in the rain. It is corner balanced and lowered which helps, I am sure. Maybe I just miss my days in Minnesota driving my ur quattro in inclement weather. Like I said, it's fun!

wildthing 12-23-2013 03:29 PM

I choose not to because I just don't have time to wash my car as often... Luckily it doesn't rain as much here... Though we're in a bit of a drought and do need rain.

weseeeee 12-23-2013 04:01 PM

Mine is just a driver and I enjoy using it in the rain. Not sure why, I just like it.

TargaHenry 12-23-2013 04:57 PM

My Targa top leaks like a sieve.

RSBob 12-23-2013 05:57 PM

I love it, on the same page we have: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/442429-show-us-your-porsche-snow.html

One extreme to the other.

And yes Mabel, I do get mine wet.

ArchHibb 12-23-2013 07:01 PM

I avoid rain whenever possible, but have been caught in it returning from weekend trips. And I can vouch that anything over 60mph with the top down, the rain stays out of the interior. Really.

fanaudical 12-23-2013 08:05 PM

Timely thread: I'm pulling both of my rust-laden fenders off my '75 Targa to replace with later-model galvanized fenders. Many surprises underneath...

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1387861400.jpg

Near as I can tell, this is a life-long PNW car (Portland/Seattle area) with all heavy undercoating as well. There are big chunks that just pull off to reveal rust underneath.

fitchesbass 12-23-2013 08:09 PM

I drive in the rain all the time in my 84 coupe. Good quality windshield wipers are a must.

madcorgi 12-23-2013 08:16 PM

In Seattle you drive in the rain or you don't drive much. And I buy my cars to drive.

I do wish i still had my white 911 instead of my black one, which gets dirty s much faster.

Terry


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