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toddu 01-31-2014 05:50 PM

Don't like my fogs
 
What to do? different valance? Just take them off?

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1391223016.jpg

Todd

SilberUrS6 01-31-2014 05:55 PM

Take them off.

I hate mine, too. I'd love to do something useful with the holes created from taking them out. Additional ducting for oil cooling? For running another front AC condenser? I think there must be a good use for those holes, other than crap foglights.

porsche930dude 01-31-2014 06:03 PM

yup just paint some plugs. you can get that stuff at any hardware or autoparts store

porwolf 01-31-2014 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilberUrS6 (Post 7886485)
Take them off.

I hate mine, too. I'd love to do something useful with the holes created from taking them out. Additional ducting for oil cooling? For running another front AC condenser? I think there must be a good use for those holes, other than crap foglights.

How about just plugging the holes up:

http://www.heyco.com/Hole_Plugs/

Arne2 01-31-2014 06:33 PM

Mine will be gone when I get around to painting the car. Absolutely worthless. Cr@p light output (even for fog lights, for which I always have low expectations), and yet expensive to repair if a rock breaks a lens.

Since my valance is bent and has filler from previous repair, I will just replace it with a new CS-style.

SilberUrS6 01-31-2014 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porwolf (Post 7886495)
How about just plugging the holes up:

http://www.heyco.com/Hole_Plugs/

On a 3.2, they are mounted in the valance.

Arne2 01-31-2014 06:55 PM

Here's the plan for my 3.2, works for SC as well:

Repro steel valance

toddu 01-31-2014 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arne2 (Post 7886573)
Here's the plan for my 3.2, works for SC as well:

Repro steel valance

Hmmmm..... interesting.

Todd

DougZ 02-01-2014 04:12 AM

I would keep them. I like the stock look. Your car looks great just the way it is!!

gamin 02-01-2014 04:18 AM

Why not a 3.2 valance? At least the fogs don't look like an after thought. And you get a cutout for air to the front oil cooler.

Flojo 02-01-2014 04:39 AM

delete 'em.
i did too. one I was stock-look convinced too.
but today Im happy, as it gives the front a nicer, clearner look.

who need fogs on a fun-car anyway?

rubber plugs for the holes.

javadog 02-01-2014 04:42 AM

Even cheaper than buying a repro valance, just have a body shop get rid of all the holes for you. If you don't run a front plate, lose those holes, too. While you're at it, remove the gravel guard sprayed on the inside. You'll end up with a nice little weight loss and you'll never miss the fog lights.

JR

toddu 02-01-2014 05:24 AM

JR - I had thought about welding up the holes myself.

Maybe I'll look at them when it ever warms up. Ars deep in an engine replacement at the moment.

Todd

nineball 02-01-2014 05:52 AM

i changed my SC to the later style valance and i am quite happy. the stock sc fogs, to me, always looked like someone at the factory forgot to install them, caught it at the last minute and stuck them on.

widgeon13 02-01-2014 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nineball (Post 7886950)
i changed my SC to the later style valance and i am quite happy. the stock sc fogs, to me, always looked like someone at the factory forgot to install them, caught it at the last minute and stuck them on.

That was the style back in the 80's. Everything wasn't form fit to the car back then.

Arne2 02-01-2014 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by javadog (Post 7886881)
Even cheaper than buying a repro valance, just have a body shop get rid of all the holes for you. If you don't run a front plate, lose those holes, too. While you're at it, remove the gravel guard sprayed on the inside. You'll end up with a nice little weight loss and you'll never miss the fog lights.

JR

For an SC with a nice condition valance, yes. For us Carrera 3.2 owners? not so much.

Alan Lindquist 02-01-2014 08:22 AM

This is my 1980 SC. I used to run a late 80's valence with the fogs tucked in. A few rocks took care of that idea. Instead of replacing the fogs, I replaced the valence with an earlier version that had just the holes for the "outboard" fogs. I had a friend weld up the holes and did some body work and then sprayed it with rhino liner from a rattle can. (easy cause the car is black). I also drilled out the struts and tucked the bumper. I made an air scoop for the passenger side "extra" side marker space with schedule 40 PVC and plexiglass, epoxy, bondo, and wrapped it in carbon fiber looking vinyl. I used the vinyl to wrap the driver side marker light since it was half hidden by the bumper tuck into the accordions. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1391275341.jpg

javadog 02-01-2014 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arne2 (Post 7887139)
For an SC with a nice condition valance, yes. For us Carrera 3.2 owners? not so much.

You can fill in those holes, too. Or make cooling ducts out of them. Or trade your valance and washer fluid tank to an early car owner for an earlier style valance.

Etc.

JR

redridge 02-01-2014 08:31 AM

your just bored... p-cars looks great in stock form.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1391223016.jpg

Tidybuoy 02-01-2014 11:15 AM

Personally, I like the fogs. My '74 does not have them but I may add the "built in" fogs that are on the Carrera valence, some day.

If you really hate yours, you could get a '74 valence and then add the spoiler lip.

Here's mine (no spoiler lip), wish I had one.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1391285729.jpg

trader220 02-01-2014 12:47 PM

Personally I dont like the fogs and I am considering the clean look for my 87 Targa.

porwolf 02-01-2014 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trader220 (Post 7887631)
Personally I dont like the fogs and I am considering the clean look for my 87 Targa.

I also dumped the idea of adding fog standard lights to my all original '79 Targa. Especially since they don't seem to do anything. I like my front just the way it looks. I did switch to H4's though, much better light and even better looks.



http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1391293132.jpg

OttoBob 02-01-2014 03:49 PM

Just finished placing this "Clubsport" valance from Rennspeed on my 1987 3.2 Carerra. No more fog lights to hassle with.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1391301950.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1391301988.jpg

weseeeee 02-01-2014 04:46 PM

Now you guys got me thinking of taking my fog lights off. I've never used them were it seemed to make a difference.

Stephen-911SC 02-01-2014 04:56 PM

I removed mine after 1) I found out it was an expensive fix if the glass got broken 2) I started a moderate weight-loss program (for the car, not me) and 3) realized that I didn't really like the looks/aesthetic of the fogs. I plugged the holes with some plastic plugs from Ace Hardware and painted them body color. Hardly noticeable. I left all the switches and wires in place in case I ever changed my mind. I don't regret removing them for a second.

gjmascoli 02-01-2014 06:35 PM

I'm a stock all the way kind of guy. Since so many folks hate the stock fogs, anyone want to sell me theirs? Looking for my '76 which is missing these.

PM me!

toddu 02-01-2014 07:44 PM

Appreciate all the thoughts and pics. Guess I'll have to start driving it around again and decide.

Todd

nineball 02-03-2014 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by widgeon13 (Post 7887057)
That was the style back in the 80's. Everything wasn't form fit to the car back then.


that was "the style" for 3 years of the 80s, with the carrera being used for the other 7. 7 > 3.

trader220 02-03-2014 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porwolf (Post 7887684)
I also dumped the idea of adding fog standard lights to my all original '79 Targa. Especially since they don't seem to do anything. I like my front just the way it looks. I did switch to H4's though, much better light and even better looks.



http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1391293132.jpg

Minerva Blue with that killer interior and no foggies .... One of my top 3 Porsche colors (cassis red and off white sort of ecru color are my two other favs) Great Looking car, got any more pics?

trader220 02-03-2014 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OttoBob (Post 7887917)
Just finished placing this "Clubsport" valance from Rennspeed on my 1987 3.2 Carerra. No more fog lights to hassle with.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1391301950.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1391301988.jpg

Looks great.... I see myself going down that slippery slope too !!

Josh D 02-03-2014 08:11 AM

Deleted the fogs (how often do we get fog in AZ?) and had the license plate holes filled prior to paint. I like the smooth look.

I don't have a picture, but I found a black plastic plug to fill the spot in the dash vacated by the fog switch. It looks factory.

http://i906.photobucket.com/albums/a...r/IMG_7738.jpg

Stephen-911SC 02-03-2014 09:07 AM

Quote:

Deleted the fogs (how often do we get fog in AZ?) and had the license plate holes filled prior to paint. I like the smooth look.<br>
<br>
I don't have a picture, but I found a black plastic plug to fill the spot in the dash vacated by the fog switch. It looks factory.<br>
<br>
<a href="http://s906.photobucket.com/user/easyover/media/IMG_7738.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i906.photobucket.com/albums/ac264/easyover/IMG_7738.jpg" border="0" alt=""></a>
Where did you get the plug? Curious as I might do the same...

BE911SC 02-03-2014 09:12 AM

Someone posted this link in another hole-plugging thread:

http://www.heyco.com/Hole_Plugs/

bkreigsr 02-03-2014 09:13 AM

Fog Delete - not to worry - still have all the original lower front end in the attic.
(The car has become quite desireable - thanks to Magnus :) )
Bill K
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1391451197.jpg

toddu 02-03-2014 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josh D (Post 7890416)

Looks great!! Could possibly wire cooler fan to the fog switch....



Todd

golfbuddy 02-03-2014 10:38 AM

I have an 82 SC with the stock fog lights. Am thinking about rewiring and using them as day time lights. Anyone do this? Not sure how hard to get this done. :confused:

Scott S 02-03-2014 11:03 AM

Here is mine. Love the clean look.

Bkreigsr - that car looks very mean..... love it.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1391456369.jpg

Josh D 02-03-2014 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen-911SC (Post 7890527)
Where did you get the plug? Curious as I might do the same...

Lowes!SmileWavy

Stephen-911SC 02-03-2014 01:48 PM

Oh ok, didn't realize it was that simple! :)
I got some of those plugs from Ace for the exterior fog light holes, wasn't sure if there was something "nicer" for the interior.

douglas bray 02-03-2014 03:54 PM

Go with H4's on relays and get the 85W bulbs from Steve Weiner. You will no longer need your fogs.


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