Yet another reason to buy an SC over a Carrera

Strugs · 09-05-2002, 03:37 PM

I have been lurking here for quite some time because if all goes as planned, I will be buying a 911 SC or 1980's Carrera in the next few months.

Anyways, I thought I would call about insurance prices today, as I suspected rates might be high. I asked for a quote on a 1983 SC and a 1984 Carrera to see if there was any difference in price. I was shocked that there is almost a $300 (Canadian) difference.

The annual cost of an SC would run approx $1200 and the Carrera approx $1500!

I am so proud to live in British Columbia and be at the mercy of our government owned Gestapo insurance company known as ICBC.

So come on SCWDP'ers - admit it - you have infiltrated ICBC and forced them to make the Carrera's more expensive.

On a somewhat related note, anyone from Greater Vancouver able to recommend a good place to get an honest and thorough PPI done?

Doug Zielke · 08:51 AM

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Originally posted by Strugs

On a somewhat related note, anyone from Greater Vancouver able to recommend a good place to get an honest and thorough PPI done?

Weissach Performance
1 800 665 6688
Please ask for Stuart Davidson, and tell him Doug Zielke sent you.

EDIT: I originally posted Stu's last name as "Anderson". Sorry.
I must have been thinking of an old dude that sells cheap steak dinners!

Jas · 09-05-2002, 04:31 PM

Strugs,

There is a reputable independant mechanic in North Vancouver who has been working on Porsches for a number of years. Unfortunately I don't remember what his name was, but if you did want to find out, I should be able to.. unless someone else on the boards from Vancouver knows who it is.

UrbanGarage (http://www.urbangarage.com) takes their Porsches to Burrard Autostrasse to have them checked out last time I asked them.

Are you looking at a particular SC? Or just in general. I've been looking for the past 6 months, but haven't found one that has met my needs w/o being sold quickly (83-86, coupe, fairly priced)

Doug Zielke · 09-05-2002, 04:46 PM

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Originally posted by Jas
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UrbanGarage (http://www.urbangarage.com) takes their Porsches to Burrard Autostrasse to have them checked out last time I asked them.

Of course, Burrard Autostrasse is a *body shop*, and while there is none better in the city at their specialty, I don't think they do mechanical PPI's.
Or, to find out, call them and ask for John Rieken (the PO of my beautiful SC).

rpollock · 09-05-2002, 04:49 PM

You guys think you have problems! Try finding a decent SC or Carrera Coupe in Alberta.... if you have any leads anywhere in Western Canada please let me know. The pickings are mighty slim.

rickpollock@shaw.ca

Doug Zielke · 09-05-2002, 04:52 PM

Rick,
Contact my friend Duncan Pierce at the Urban Garage (see link above). Tell Dunc' I sent you....he's a great fellow, and will find you an excellent car, fairly priced.

Strugs · 09-05-2002, 04:56 PM

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Originally posted by Jas
Are you looking at a particular SC? Or just in general. I've been looking for the past 6 months, but haven't found one that has met my needs w/o being sold quickly (83-86, coupe, fairly priced) [/B]

Hi Jas,
In the past few months, I have only looked at a few SC's and Carrera's, as I am not currently in a position to purchase. At the end of October, I WILL be in just such a position, so the real hunt will start then.

I am not expecting to find my ideal 911 right away, though. I just hope I can be as patient as you are.

If you can find the name of the guy in N Van I would appreciate it. Thx.

rpollock · 09-05-2002, 04:57 PM

Thanks Doug. I'll be sure and call him tomorrow.

Strugs · 09-05-2002, 05:25 PM

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Originally posted by Doug Zielke
Rick,
Contact my friend Duncan Pierce at the Urban Garage (see link above). Tell Dunc' I sent you....he's a great fellow, and will find you an excellent car, fairly priced.

I have a friend who was looking for a coupe about 8 months ago. He went to look at the Urban Garage and they would not let him test drive the car until he made an offer. He was not willing to make an offer on a vehicle that he could not get an idea on how well it worked mechanically, so he left. Is that normal for a dealer? I have never heard of that before. I could understand if it was a 2001 Twin Turbo or something, but it was just a mid-eighties Carrera. The UG lost a customer with that tactic (friend went on to find another private sale a few weeks later).

Doug Zielke · 09-05-2002, 05:33 PM

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Originally posted by Strugs

I have a friend who was looking for a coupe about 8 months ago. He went to look at the Urban Garage and they would not let him test drive the car until he made an offer. He was not willing to make an offer on a vehicle that he could not get an idea on how well it worked mechanically, so he left....

This doesn't sound right to those of us who know Duncan and his business practices. He has a very good, and well deserved reputation.
I'd suggest you (or your friend) take these concerns up with Duncan personally. Then tell us the other side of the story.

stealthn · 09-05-2002, 07:20 PM

Rick,

Last year was a banner year in Alberta for Porsche!

I was looking for almost two years before I found mine, and I checked out about 12.

I would consider a trade for the same shape coupe though

rpollock · 09-05-2002, 07:41 PM

Nice car Bob. 2 year search???? You are a patient man. I have seen a bunch of targas in the last while, darn few coupes.

Rick

Strugs · 09-05-2002, 09:53 PM

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Originally posted by Doug Zielke

This doesn't sound right to those of us who know Duncan and his business practices. He has a very good, and well deserved reputation.
I'd suggest you (or your friend) take these concerns up with Duncan personally. Then tell us the other side of the story.

Hi Doug,
Well, I don't have any issues personally, just the story from my friend. If you as a senior member of this board recommend Duncan and the UG, then I will definitely give him a call when I start my search. Thanks.

Jas · 09-05-2002, 10:22 PM

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Originally posted by Strugs

Hi Doug,
Well, I don't have any issues personally, just the story from my friend. If you as a senior member of this board recommend Duncan and the UG, then I will definitely give him a call when I start my search. Thanks.

I'll look around for the name.

I'll also vouch for Duncan and his staff at UrbanGarage, they were very professional when I dealt with them, although I didn't end up purchasing the car for a few reasons.

First of all, I'm 19. Student/part-time webdesigner at UBC, and I went in to look at a '72 911. I checked the car out, asked the regular questions, asked if I could take it for a testdrive and they were happy to let my friend and I take it for a spin. The salesmen (6'1) even sat in the back during a 20 minute test drive (not very comfortable, but not terrible, I've done it myself). I was very impressed with the service.

rpollock · 09-06-2002, 12:25 PM

Doug,

I spoke to Adriano at the Urban Garage, Duncan was out. Anyhow, they have a 1979 911SC Coupe over there, it is brown however. 250,000 kms, but good records, no smoke, no leaks, etc, so it sunds like a good possibility. Adriano will have the car at some PCA function tommorrow in Vancouver, if you or any of your buddies can have a look at it and give me some feedback I would appreciate it. I think I would be interested, but with the idea of stripping it and painting it. What do you think?

Rick

Jdub · 09-06-2002, 01:29 PM

I think brown is a fine color for a Porsche - you'll grow to like it! My feeling has always been that you never fight the factory color. Unless, of course, we are talking about a shell and building up from scratch.

I would go look at this car in person to see if you can live with the color. And I would trust what DougZ has to say; he knows his poop!

John

jwill911 · jwill911's Garage

I agree with jdub.

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I think brown is a fine color for a Porsche

When I was looking for a Porsche ~4 years ago I never considered a brown car. I wanted silver, blue, white, maybe black, just didn't want red. But I was shopping for the right car, in the right condition. I almost passed mine up when I found out it was brown. But when I saw it and drove it, it was the right one. An espresso brown metallic beauty IMNSHO.

island911 · 09-06-2002, 02:26 PM

Nice, jwill911. That looks like the same color as the 930 on the cover (premire issue) of Purely Porsche GT.

Also, an interesting thread on; all you wanted to know about brown 911's, but. . .
. . . keep the pict's coming.

Bob Benson · 09-06-2002, 09:42 PM

Hi Strugs,

There are two good shops for older 911 PPI's in the Vancouver region that I would recommend. Weissach as mentioned and Scan Automotive in North Vancouver. Owner Andy Haglund is a PCA member and has owned several Porsche cars and is a top notch mechanic who will tell you the truth with no strings attached. You can reach him at 604 980 4542. Good luck, I remember well the fun I had searching for my car.

Bob Benson · 09-06-2002, 09:48 PM

Doug, did you have your laptop with you while chowing down at Stuart Anderson's Black Angus? Stewart's last name is Davidson, not Anderson. I would suggest you owe Stewart a couple of nice ale's at a pub of his choice. See you in the morning.