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aquazulu2 03-16-2014 02:10 PM
I looked at the price and I did not jump. Great Idea, but like many 911 tools a little pricy. The work-around tool is already reasonable prices ie the feeler gage with the twist, and your closed end wrench. Need to bring that price down so every one-jumps on it, and in the tool box it goes to get trashed and eventually misplaced. bring the price down. I still have to use my box end wrench. Back-stocked has it's own marketing place though. Nice tool !..

wayner 03-16-2014 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by dkirk (Post 7962102)
Wayner,

I'm the guilty party! I originally introduced this next door on the 911 Engine Forum:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/911-engine-rebuilding-forum/794442-911-valve-lash-adjustment-tool.html

Please see that post as it explains how the tool functions, although the quys here have it all figured out.

That lawn and garden tractor site (lawnmower company) you found is mine also - I've specialized in ignition system upgrades for these older machines. Thought I'd try a few specialty tools for the air-cooled 911's too.

I've not yet tried to open a bottle with this tool but if it works, I'll add that to the product features.

Thanks very much for your interest.
I gona buy one quick before everyone else discourages you from selling these!
I have so many miles on my feeler gauges that I doubt they are anyware near thick enough to be accurate anymore ;)

Love the ingenuity!SmileWavy

SilberUrS6 03-16-2014 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by aquazulu2 (Post 7964707)
I looked at the price and I did not jump. Great Idea, but like many 911 tools a little pricy. The work-around tool is already reasonable prices ie the feeler gage with the twist, and your closed end wrench. Need to bring that price down so every one-jumps on it, and in the tool box it goes to get trashed and eventually misplaced. bring the price down. I still have to use my box end wrench. Back-stocked has it's own marketing place though. Nice tool !..
All my special tools have their own little place. :)

This one I like because it is a two-handed tool. The traditional method is a three-handed affair - first, you loosen stuff up. Then, you stick in gauge, then tighten. Remove feeler.

At any given time, there are three tools in play, and only two hands. This tool makes one of the tools unnecessary for the adjustment job. For the checking of the clearance, a feeler is necessary. But that's a one-handed job. :)

Ronnie will now have some comments to share, LOL.

Bob Kontak 03-16-2014 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by snbush67 (Post 7962108)
There are stupider ways to spend your money........
Excuse me, I think the expression is "There are MORE stupider ways...":D

I like the tool a lot. Probably won't buy one as I have more time than money.

Here is the rub for me. If I was using it I would really want assurance the tool was working correctly and that I did not fat hand something. Soooo, set it, spin it around a couple of times and what do you use to double check? Well, that would be a feeler gauge or the far more painful exercise, a dial indicator.

Ronnie's.930 03-16-2014 02:43 PM
Eric, don't you think that the above, explicit description of your various coupling techniques to be a bit too racy for this g-rated forum? Perhaps you need a time out, sir! :p

Bob Kontak 03-16-2014 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Ronnie's.930 (Post 7964770)
Perhaps you need a time out, sir! :p
I know a good island.......

SilberUrS6 03-16-2014 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Ronnie's.930 (Post 7964770)
Eric, don't you think that the above, explicit description of your various coupling techniques to be a bit too racy for this g-rated forum? Perhaps you need a time out, sir! :p
Well, when I stick in my feeler gauge to check the clearance...

Wait, wut?

Ronnie's.930 03-16-2014 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob Kontak (Post 7964778)
I know a good island.......
Did you meet any "pompus asses" while you were there?!?!?! :D

SilberUrS6 03-16-2014 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob Kontak (Post 7964766)
Excuse me, I think the expression is "There are MORE stupider ways...":D

Here is the rub for me. If I was using it I would really want assurance the tool was working correctly and that I did not fat hand something. Soooo, set it, spin it around a couple of times and what do you use to double check? Well, that would be a feeler gauge or the far more painful exercise, a dial indicator.
Wouldn't you do that anyway? So, you spin the motor, and do the adjustment in the traditional manner. But, as a double-check, you spin it around again to check that you got it right the first time. Surely, I'm not the only one who does this? (And don't call me Shirley.)

Ronnie's.930 03-16-2014 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by SilberUrS6 (Post 7964782)
Well, when I stick in my feeler gauge to check the clearance...

Wait, wut?
I can never seem to measure any discernible clearance with my feeler gauge in place, and in fact, my gauge actually seems to create negative clearance! I wonder why that is?!

Bob Kontak 03-16-2014 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by SilberUrS6 (Post 7964788)
Wouldn't you do that anyway?
Shirley,

Most of us ain't that good to not do that.

Bob Kontak 03-16-2014 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Ronnie's.930 (Post 7964787)
Did you meet any "pompus asses" while you were there?!?!?! :D
From what they told me in the buffet line , that's what I was being.

Bob Kontak 03-16-2014 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Ronnie's.930 (Post 7964797)
I can never seem to measure any discernible clearance with my feeler gauge in place, and in fact, my gauge actually seems to create negative clearance! I wonder why that is?!
Because you can't hold the elephant foot in place while you cinch down the nut.

What a maroon.

SilberUrS6 03-16-2014 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob Kontak (Post 7964819)
Because you can't hold the elephant foot in place while you cinch down the nut.
That was so wrong, Bob. So VERY wrong.

iLOLd.

Bob Kontak 03-16-2014 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by SilberUrS6 (Post 7964886)
That was so wrong, Bob. So VERY wrong.
He doesn't know a Magnolia Tree from a Blue Bonnet. Plus it's cool to trash him when he's offline.

This is his idea of adjusted valves:

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/H0sVsMxydAw" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Ronnie's.930 03-16-2014 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob Kontak (Post 7964819)
Because you can't hold the elephant foot in place while you cinch down the nut.

What a maroon.
I'm not usually holding feet while trying to do the "nut" business . . . tend to clamp down on knobs a bit higher up . . . maybe I'll give yer technique a look-see?! http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/mo...king-moony.gif

Bob Kontak 03-16-2014 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Ronnie's.930 (Post 7964916)
. . . maybe I'll give yer technique a look-see?
Wha'd I say? Where's the love?

Ronnie's.930 03-16-2014 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob Kontak (Post 7964904)
This is his idea of adjusted valves:
Bob, we've all seen your pride and joy many times before, and I'm convinced that the "engine sound" (if you can call it that), in that video is not from the actual car, but is a recording of you doing this in your living room - http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/fa...art-bounce.gif

SilberUrS6 03-16-2014 04:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronnie's.930 (Post 7964916)
I'm not usually holding feet while trying to do the "nut" business . . . tend to clamp down on knobs a bit higher up . . . maybe I'll give yer technique a look-see?! http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/mo...king-moony.gif
Oh, damn. I about fell out of my chair.

Bob Kontak 03-16-2014 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Ronnie's.930 (Post 7964946)
Bob, we've all seen your pride and joy many times before.............
Please, don't confuse me with the facts.


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