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rdimarco 05-03-2014 06:35 AM

I installed a set of the whites. Great upgrade. Thank you.

rothaus 05-06-2014 08:17 AM

Here is an excellent write-up with pictures from the install from Pstallo.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/809742-led-gauge-tutorial.html


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1399345105.jpg


Thanks for posting it.
Engelbert

Pstallo 05-06-2014 11:41 AM

The LEDs work great, BTW! I feel like I'm back in the modern age when I turn the lights on!

bourgeois911 05-10-2014 05:11 AM

Installed these this AM
 
25 minutes start to finish, didn't need to remove the steering wheel but the tach was a tight squeeze. The difference is literally night and day. Just a few things...

I need to figure out why my high beam indicator isn't working, but it wasn't working when I started either.

One of the instrument lights in the fuel gauge wasn't a BA7, so I re-used the existing bulb and added the LED to the other socket, still looks great.

Two thumbs up!!

rothaus 05-10-2014 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bourgeois911 (Post 8057309)
25 minutes start to finish, didn't need to remove the steering wheel but the tach was a tight squeeze. The difference is literally night and day. Just a few things...

I need to figure out why my high beam indicator isn't working, but it wasn't working when I started either.

One of the instrument lights in the fuel gauge wasn't a BA7, so I re-used the existing bulb and added the LED to the other socket, still looks great.

Two thumbs up!!

Thanks for posting your feedback. SmileWavy

Did you take a picture of the socket in the fuel gauge ? Would be good to know what other type of bulbs are in there.

I which other socket did you use the LED ?

Thanks
Engelbert

bourgeois911 05-10-2014 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rothaus (Post 8057873)
Thanks for posting your feedback. SmileWavy

Did you take a picture of the socket in the fuel gauge ? Would be good to know what other type of bulbs are in there.

I which other socket did you use the LED ?

Thanks
Engelbert

There was a BA7 socket in the gauge in addition to the oddball one. There was no metal base on the bulb, just glass with 2 wires inserted into a plastic socket. I'll get some pics and take a closer look when I get some time.

zelrik911 05-10-2014 09:04 PM

LED Turn Signal Indicator bulbs ????
 
Are turn signal indicator bulbs available in LED yet (for a '78 SC)?

I am going to order a LED set, but the faint turn signal indicator is the light I DONT SEE the most & I would love to have fixed.
My loud muffler (& no insulation pad) means that I dont hear the turn clicker either.
Peter 78 3.0 SC

http://www.bytephoto.com/photopost/d...edium/bulb.jpg

pope 05-11-2014 01:04 AM

In a huge thread on LEDs I found this post.

A PM to one of these guys that have researched dash lights may provide the answer for you.

GaryR 05-11-2014 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rothaus (Post 8025763)
I will get some green and blue for the parking light indicator in the speedo, and high beam in the tach. I tested them in my SC and they work great.

I have not tested yet how they would work for the turn signal indicator.

These color LED will have only one LED on top since the only need to shine straight.

As soon I got them I will post some results.

Thanks
Engelbert

Englebert -
Since I already had you soft-white set, which installed and worked perfectly TY, (I only have one bulb and a need for one spacer in my clock, is that odd?), so I got two green signal LEDs from Jake. I removed the old signal bulbs and plugged in the green LEDs. They didn't light up on either side yet I heard the signal stat clicking. Flip the bulbs over in the socket and they light up all the time, move the lever to signal left and the right signal blinks brighter (but is never off) Signal right, same thing. Put the oem bulbs back, works perfectly. Any ideas?

bourgeois911 05-11-2014 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rothaus (Post 8057873)
Thanks for posting your feedback. SmileWavy

Did you take a picture of the socket in the fuel gauge ? Would be good to know what other type of bulbs are in there.

I which other socket did you use the LED ?

Thanks
Engelbert

DOH!

I R an idiot. The "oddball" bulb is the low fuel indicator.

rothaus 05-12-2014 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zelrik911 (Post 8058376)
Are turn signal indicator bulbs available in LED yet (for a '78 SC)?

I am going to order a LED set, but the faint turn signal indicator is the light I DONT SEE the most & I would love to have fixed.
My loud muffler (& no insulation pad) means that I dont hear the turn clicker either.
Peter 78 3.0 SC

http://www.bytephoto.com/photopost/d...edium/bulb.jpg

I got the green LED's for the Parking light indicator, however, I have not tested if these LED's working for the turn signal indicator lights in the Tach.

http://airboxer.com/images/LED_green_Blue.jpg

I hope to get them test before the end of this week.

Cheers
Engelbert

rothaus 05-12-2014 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bourgeois911 (Post 8059541)
DOH!

I R an idiot. The "oddball" bulb is the low fuel indicator.

Thanks for the clarification ! SmileWavy

Cheers
Engelbert

flatsicks 05-12-2014 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zelrik911 (Post 8058376)
Are turn signal indicator bulbs available in LED yet (for a '78 SC)?

I am going to order a LED set, but the faint turn signal indicator is the light I DONT SEE the most & I would love to have fixed.
My loud muffler (& no insulation pad) means that I dont hear the turn clicker either.
Peter 78 3.0 SC

http://www.bytephoto.com/photopost/d...edium/bulb.jpg

I got one of these for my turn signal from Etarga. I don't believe he advertizes them, but he has them occasionally. They are awesome.

GaryR 05-12-2014 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flatsicks (Post 8060431)
I got one of these for my turn signal from Etarga. I don't believe he advertizes them, but he has them occasionally. They are awesome.

I got two from him also, but they caused all sorts of odd problems. Plug them in one way they are on all the time. flip them and they don't do anything. Put the stock bulbs back, perfect (but too dim!)....

rothaus 05-12-2014 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaryR (Post 8060450)
I got two from him also, but they caused all sorts of odd problems. Plug them in one way they are on all the time. flip them and they don't do anything. Put the stock bulbs back, perfect (but too dim!)....

Are the turning signal indicator bulbs different in your car, like the one pictured by zelrik911 above, or they are BA7s ?

I will take a look what's in my SC, but I thought they are BA7s.

Cheers
Engelbert

GaryR 05-12-2014 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rothaus (Post 8060724)
Are the turning signal indicator bulbs different in your car, like the one pictured by zelrik911 above, or they are BA7s ?

I will take a look what's in my SC, but I thought they are BA7s.

Cheers
Engelbert

They are the small bulbs like in the picture above with no metal base just the contact wires. The simply push into the big plastic socket. Tried every flip/flop combination possible, they only go in one way, and of course shoved the originals in and all was well again.. figures, the tach is the only gauge that's a ***** to get at!

rothaus 05-13-2014 03:43 PM

I did not get a round to remove the Tach, since I have to remove the steering wheel to get it out. However, I measured the holes on a spare Tach I got. And the holes from the turn signal indicator are smaller. See picture below, the Illumination and High beam indicator are 9.9mm for the BA7s sockets, and the turn signal holes are 9.6mm.

I found out that bulb type is W2x4,6d and they are all over at ebay, however, I have no experience with them, and I don't know if they work with the turning signal.

Here is a picture of the Tach:
http://airboxer.com/images/SC-Carrera_Tach.jpg

Cheers
Engelbert

Jp-oh 05-17-2014 05:59 AM

Aside from me dropping an old bulb into my speedo I am very pleased with these lights. They are hilariously bright compared to the originals. I initially did just the speedo and in daylight in my garage I could easily see the illumination in that gauge whereas with the others you could not tell when the lights were on or off. Good deal.

Ps. The vintage colour is very fitting as well.

rothaus 05-17-2014 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jp-oh (Post 8069289)
Aside from me dropping an old bulb into my speedo I am very pleased with these lights. They are hilariously bright compared to the originals. I initially did just the speedo and in daylight in my garage I could easily see the illumination in that gauge whereas with the others you could not tell when the lights were on or off. Good deal.

Ps. The vintage colour is very fitting as well.

Great !

Did you get the old bulb out ?

Cheers
Engelbert

rothaus 06-01-2014 05:35 PM

I have now a web page for the LED's.

Take a look BA7s LED

Cheers
Engelbert

rothaus 06-23-2014 04:54 PM

Just want to post some feedback I got on my LED's:

"This weekend I put in your Vintage White LED's. My preference is for the White LED's but I wanted to try the Vintage first as I was unsure of how fragile the LED's might be with my heavy handed installation technique.


Everything working a charm.


I did not take a picture of the LED's from the alternative source, but I can tell you, yours are much brighter, and have a slide wider dimming range. I will put the white ones in due course.


Here are a couple of pictures taken in a moderately sunlight garage."


http://airboxer.com/images/LED-Installed01.jpg

http://airboxer.com/images/LED-Installed02.jpg

Cheers
Engelbert

rothaus 06-26-2014 04:35 PM

I had a few questions regarding how to point the LED's during install.

I made up this little graphic, that shows how to point the LED's, so that the side LED's give the best light.

Basically the side LED's point 90 deg to the outside wall of the instrument. Example on the clock is the only one light at 12h so the side LED's should point left and right.

http://airboxer.com/images/pointing_LED.jpg

Cheers
Engelbert

ozracer 06-27-2014 07:52 PM

Nice work engelbert I will be ordering shortly

deguitars 06-28-2014 10:43 AM

When I go to your website and click order the only option is for "bright white" so do you still offer "vintage white" sets?

Thanks!

David

rothaus 06-28-2014 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deguitars (Post 8138846)
When I go to your website and click order the only option is for "bright white" so do you still offer "vintage white" sets?

Thanks!

David

Yes, vintage white are further down. Just scroll down in the window with the LED's.

Otherwise PM me.

Thanks
Engelbert

rothaus 07-25-2014 09:15 AM

I still have both types available, Bright White and Vintage White.

http://airboxer.com/images/All_White_01.jpg

http://airboxer.com/images/All_Warm_White_01.jpg

Cheers
Engelbert

rothaus 07-31-2014 05:21 PM

Just want to post some feedback I got from a buyer in Australia.

HI ENGELBERT,

THE LED’S ARRIVED YESTERDAY ALL WELL AND GOOD.

I TESTED THEM LAST NIGHT ON MY SPEEDO AS I CURRENTLY HAVE ALL THE GAUGES OUT DOING A REFURBISHMENT ON THEM.

THEY ARE ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT……THE DIFFERENCE IS LITERALLY LIKE NIGHT AND DAY……I CAN FINALLY SEE WHAT SPEED I AM DOING AT A GLANCE INSTEAD OF HAVING TO SQUINT AND LOOK FOR THE NEEDLE.

ACTUALLY , I HAD ALREADY INSTALLED EL WIRE AROUND THE INSIDE PERIMETER OF MY GAUGES AND IN MY OPINION IS THE BEST WAY OF ILLUMINATING THESE GAUGES , I LOVE THE WAY YOU GET A TOTALLY EVEN DISTRIBUTION OF LIGHT ACROSS THE FACE OF THE GAUGE WITHOUT ANY SHADOWING. HOWERVER , IT WAS A TEDIOUS , FIDDLY AND TIME CONSUMING JOB HAVING TO UNCRIMP THE OUTSIDE BEZZEL , TAKE THE INSIDE OF THE GAUGE TOTALLY APART THEN RECRIMP AND PAINT THE BEZZEL WITHOUT DEFORMING IT. IF ANYTHING EVER GOES WRONG WITH THE EL WIRE INSIDE THE GAUGES I WILL NOT BE REDOING THEM NOW THAT I HAVE YOUR LED’S. IN FACT I WILL BE RUNNING BOTH SYSTEMS SO I CAN JUST SWITCH BETWEEN THE TWO WHEN DESIRED.

ONCE AGAIN THANKYOU FOR A GREAT PRODUCT AND HOPE TO GET YOU A FEW MORE SALES “DOWN UNDER” AFTER SOME FRIENDS SEE THE RESULTS.


Cheers
Engelbert

ZOA NOM 08-02-2014 10:33 AM

Ordered a set, looking forward to seeing the light. Great work.

porwolf 08-02-2014 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rothaus (Post 8139042)
Yes, vintage white are further down. Just scroll down in the window with the LED's.

Otherwise PM me.

Thanks
Engelbert

Very impressive LED lights, Englebert. I tried to find out also whether your LED lights are dimmable with the stock dash potentiometer but I could not find information about that. Are your LED's dimmable?

rothaus 08-02-2014 04:42 PM

Yes, they are dimm, see the video Kevin did after instaling them in his 914.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/kF3Uz8gjGWM?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

It works in my car as well.

Cheers
Engelbert

ozracer 08-04-2014 01:50 AM

Rothaus I sent you an email over the weekend from your wevbsite about placing an order did you get it?

rothaus 08-04-2014 07:57 AM

Just sent you a PM

Cheers
Engelbert

Skip1 08-06-2014 12:43 AM

New LEDs installed. Just wanted to say, finally had the chance to install the set from Engelbert, including blue and green - WOW, I can SEEEEE!

Very cool, and no issues installing them either (less fighting to get one old one out of the back of the gauge). Let the night fall I say!

Thanks Engelbert and well done.

rothaus 08-06-2014 03:31 PM

Thanks for the good feedback SmileWavy

I'm glad they worked out as expected.

I also opened a Feedback thread for any questions, comments, tips, suggestions, etc..

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/823546-post-here-your-experience-new-gauge-ba7s-led.html


Thanks
Engelbert

rothaus 10-09-2014 03:12 AM

LED Gauge lights
 
Just want to let you know, I still have the bright white and vintage white BA7s Dash LED lights available, as well the red and green for the High beam and parking light indicator.

I will soon have a set for testing for the 964 / 993 gauges.

Cheers
Engelbert

McLaren-TAG 10-20-2014 03:29 PM

Clock LED Comparison
 
I purchased the Etarga LED kit and have been very happy with it but the clock always left a lot to be desired. No fault of the LED but the design of the lighting for the clock itself with only one bulb to light the entire gauge.

Englebert was nice enough to sell me just the bulb for the clock which as I figured it was worth a side by side comparison. He included the spacer since these bulbs are twice as long and a foil if necessary (I didn't need to use it).

Attached are four shots, two direct head on and two from the side. There seems to be a little difference head on with a slight advantage to these bulbs. From the side because you do see the refraction throughout the entire gauge it is much more noticeable to the eye even though the picture makes it look brighter but slightly washed out.

I'm purposely not saying which is which in order to not to insert subjectivity to it, and forgive the fact it's not the low light capability on the phone is not so great.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1413847601.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1413847733.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1413847764.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1413847783.jpg

HRO 10-23-2014 07:12 AM

I just got Engelbert's LED lights and wow!! I can see!! What a great upgrade for very reasonable price!! The difference is like night and day. Shipping was super fast as well. Have to agree with TAG about the clock needing another light though.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1414076919.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1414076938.jpg

rothaus 10-23-2014 04:57 PM

Thanks for the feedback SmileWavy

I know the clock is the most difficult instrument to illuminate, did you try to rotate the LED ? The Bulb in the clock is at the 12h position, and the LED work best when they point left and right, and the spacer is needed.

http://airboxer.com/images/pointing_LED.jpg

Your gauges look the same as mine in the SC.

Cheers
Engelbert

HRO 10-24-2014 07:41 AM

Engelbert,
No, I have not rotated the LED yet. Thanks for info. I will try that tomorrow. This is not fault of your LED at all though. I think it just needs one more light in the bottom.

I agree that you need the spacer for the clock. Without it, it does not illuminate at all.
Hiro

BrakeL8 10-24-2014 10:38 AM

Just ordered a set of vintage 911 + B & G from you.

Look forward to getting a big lighting upgrade!

Thanks for making these available.

Best,
Lars


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