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BRAIDusa 03-08-2016 01:01 PM

Oops; I had forgotten about this thread. Results:

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1499/...f0cd9241_c.jpg232323232-fp93232-uqcshlukaxroqdfv3-23--nu=3356-36---;2-WSNRCG=-f-4eeeg03g5i-76;d0-fch-6d495ef55g46ot1lsi by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr

rothaus 03-27-2016 02:38 PM

LED Lamps for Brake, Backup, Turning Signal Lights
 
I was asked many time if I supply also the LED's for the Brake, Backup, Turning Signal Lights, etc.

I have done some testing and here are some pictures of the bulbs.

For the Tail lights. From left to right: Tail Light/Brake, Turning Signal and Backup, Side Marker.

http://airboxer.com/carmagic/images/Rear_01.jpg

I have the left and right lights next to each other, the left with standard bulbs, the right one with the LED's.

http://airboxer.com/carmagic/images/Rear_03.jpg

This would the set for the rear end per side.

http://airboxer.com/carmagic/images/Rear_02.jpg

This is for the front per side. The left one is for Parking light and Turning Signal, the right one is the side marker.

http://airboxer.com/carmagic/images/front_01.jpg

For the dom light I have these Feston LED's
http://airboxer.com/carmagic/images/feston.jpg

I plan to them available in a month or so.

Cheers
Engelbert

VFR750 03-29-2016 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NY65912 (Post 8884879)
I bought a set of Engelbert's instrument LED's in vintage white. The install was very fast and the difference is amazing! Thanks Engelbert for a fine product!

+1

Just did mine. Easy, and so much brighter. Well worth it.

NY65912 03-30-2016 03:35 AM

Engelbert,

I take it you have tested the turns in regard to needing a different turn signal flasher. Please let us know as I would like to order a full set of LED bulb replacements.

And, if you could perhaps you could post a few photos at night of the LEDs installed.

Thanks

rothaus 03-30-2016 02:57 PM

Hello Mike,

I still need to test it with the new flasher, and also want to add the LED in the tach and make sure it all work together, so it can also be ordered as a complete kit.

Thanks
Engelbert

rothaus 04-26-2016 05:02 PM

OK here we go.

I have now a complete set of LED's including the following:

Front: LED for turning signal/parking light, and side marker.

http://airboxer.com/carmagic/images/front_01.jpg

Rear: LED for turning light, Back up light, Tail light/Brake light, and side marker

http://airboxer.com/carmagic/images/Rear_02.jpg

Dash indicator: LED's and wire setup, plus the correct flasher relay, and instructions.

I will have these sets ready for sale in about 4-6 weeks for $175 per set.

I will take pre-orders for the first 10 set's for $150 shipped.

Thanks
Engelbert

Uwon 04-27-2016 01:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rothaus (Post 9055715)
I was asked many time if I supply also the LED's for the Brake, Backup, Turning Signal Lights, etc.

I have done some testing and here are some pictures of the bulbs.

For the Tail lights. From left to right: Tail Light/Brake, Turning Signal and Backup, Side Marker.

http://airboxer.com/carmagic/images/Rear_01.jpg

I have the left and right lights next to each other, the left with standard bulbs, the right one with the LED's.

http://airboxer.com/carmagic/images/Rear_03.jpg

This would the set for the rear end per side.

Engelbert, shouldn't the LEDs be color coordinated with the appropriate lens? My understanding is that Otherwise they will look washed out.
Johan

rothaus 04-28-2016 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uwon (Post 9096439)
Engelbert, shouldn't the LEDs be color coordinated with the appropriate lens? My understanding is that Otherwise they will look washed out.
Johan

Johan, thanks for your input, I will post some picture later this week. I will also look into the possibility of red or yellow LED's for the turning signal, and tail and brake lights.

Thanks
Engelbert

rothaus 05-01-2016 08:06 AM

LED Lamps for Brake, Backup, Turning Signal Lights
 
I took some pictures, these are all with bright white LED's.

I let the camera adjust for the light, so they maybe a bit off.

Here are the front parking / side marker light.

http://airboxer.com/carmagic/images/front_led.jpg

Rear Tail Light only

http://airboxer.com/carmagic/images/...-tail-only.jpg

Rear Brake Light only

http://airboxer.com/carmagic/images/...brake-only.jpg

Rear Tail and Brake Light

http://airboxer.com/carmagic/images/...tail+brake.jpg

Rear Flasher

http://airboxer.com/carmagic/images/...asher-only.jpg

Rear Backup Light, this put's out a lot of light.

http://airboxer.com/carmagic/images/...ackup-only.jpg

The red lenses look a lot lighter in the pictures than they look in person.

As soon I get some red and yellow LED's for the tail/brake and turning lights, I will do another test, however, they way this looks with the white LED's I don't think that the red or yellow would make it look much better, but it's worth a try.


Cheers
Engelbert

nameisbauer 05-02-2016 07:14 AM

Subscribed. Also a thumbs up for the gauge LEDs. they look/work great.

Uwon 05-03-2016 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rothaus (Post 9102282)
I took some pictures, these are all with bright white LED's.

I let the camera adjust for the light, so they maybe a bit off.

Here are the front parking / side marker light.

http://airboxer.com/carmagic/images/front_led.jpg

Rear Tail Light only

http://airboxer.com/carmagic/images/...-tail-only.jpg

Rear Brake Light only

http://airboxer.com/carmagic/images/...brake-only.jpg

Rear Tail and Brake Light

http://airboxer.com/carmagic/images/...tail+brake.jpg

Rear Flasher

http://airboxer.com/carmagic/images/...asher-only.jpg

Rear Backup Light, this put's out a lot of light.

http://airboxer.com/carmagic/images/...ackup-only.jpg

The red lenses look a lot lighter in the pictures than they look in person.

As soon I get some red and yellow LED's for the tail/brake and turning lights, I will do another test, however, they way this looks with the white LED's I don't think that the red or yellow would make it look much better, but it's worth a try.


Cheers
Engelbert

To me the brake, tail light and turn signal look washed out albeit they all appear to be nice and bright. Or, are the pics overexposed? My guess is that color coordinated LEDs would be perfect.
Johan

rothaus 05-21-2016 06:13 AM

I got some red LED's and installed them to see the difference. Amazingly there is a difference.

Here the turning signal with the white LED
http://airboxer.com/carmagic/images/LED_Blinker_W.jpg

Here with the Red one
http://airboxer.com/carmagic/images/LED_Blinker_Red.jpg

So, I will have them available as follows:

Front: LED for turning signal/parking light, and side marker. These will be white.
http://airboxer.com/carmagic/images/front_01.jpg

Rear: LED for Tail light/Brake light RED, turning light RED, Back up light Bright White, and side marker RED

http://airboxer.com/carmagic/images/Rear_02.jpg



Cheers
Engelbert

DRACO A5OG 05-21-2016 07:07 AM

If I may suggest, amber for us with Euro Lenses.

rothaus 05-21-2016 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRACO A5OG (Post 9129875)
If I may suggest, amber for us with Euro Lenses.

The only other color is Yellow and Blue. I can get a sample of the yellow for the turning signal. If you are interested to test the yellow LED with your Euro lenses. I can send you one once I got it.

Cheers
Engelbert

DRACO A5OG 05-21-2016 09:13 AM

Be happy to and compare them against Daniel Stern's recommend Nickle Plated HONDA bulbs.

PMing you my addy

Uwon 05-22-2016 10:20 AM

I suspect that yellow will work well with amber turn signal lenses. Looking forward to the result.
Johan

DG624 05-22-2016 12:20 PM

I got some bulbs from etarga in Phoenix about two years ago. He didn't have exterior lights then. I am interested.

jwill911 05-26-2016 10:07 AM

I have read extensively much of the numerous threads on LEDs, I purchased a set of the vintage instrument LEDs from EngleBert which I will install this weekend.

Now I'm exploring LEDs for the exterior lights; front turn signal/marker, rear brake, turn signal, backup and third brake.
Another member on this forum Spoke has these elaborate LED boards with mounting replacements, which he has put considerable R&D into. This seems to me overkill, maybe I'm missing something. What if any is the advantage over what Englebert is offering with just single plug in LED replacements for the bulbs. I like simplicity and elegance. Has anyone considered both and chose one over the other? And why? I do like the idea of having brighter lights both front and rear, it's not an immediate concern been driving the car for 20 years the way it is, but something I will do in the upcoming weeks/months. I'd like to make an informed decision.
Thanks in advance for your input.
John

jwill911 05-26-2016 01:25 PM

Hi Engelbert,
Are these available now or coming soon?
I realized after posting my last message they are not yet posted on your website, and your last post contained the key word "will".
I'll patiently wait availability.
John

rothaus 05-26-2016 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwill911 (Post 9136587)
Hi Engelbert,
Are these available now or coming soon?
I realized after posting my last message they are not yet posted on your website, and your last post contained the key word "will".
I'll patiently wait availability.
John

I was holding off on a big order, because I did some more testing with the RED for the turning signal and Tail/Brake light. Thanks to all for this input, it will help to get a great product.

They on order now and I should have them on hand by middle of June. Sorry, but I want to make sure the LED are good and they work for the red and amber lenses.

Again, Thanks for the input.

Engelbert

jwill911 06-01-2016 03:44 PM

I ordered "vintage" instrument LEDs for my gauges along with the in-line fuse. As Engelbert mentions in the in-line fuse install instructions removing the headlight switch from the dash makes it easier to connect to the black/blue wires, of which there are two.

Removing the switch was not readily apparent, so I referred to the manual. For those who don't have a manual:
1 - Using a small screw driver pry the center from the switch knob.
It's a soft rubber material so no damage to the knob.
2 - Once the center of the knob is out there's a 10mm nut holding the knob on, after removing the nut remove it wiggle and pull the knob comes off pretty easy.
3 - The manual says use a small spanner to remove the ring holding the switch in place. I didn't have one but found in my tool box a "Sears Professional" snap ring pliers which conveniently spans the shaft of the switch and fits two of the holes in the ring, turning CCW and off it comes right off.
4 - You'll need to reconnect the negative cable to the battery temporarily to determine which of the two black/blue wires powers the gauge lights.
5 - Connect the in-line fuse in series with that one and you're done.

Sorry no pictures I didn't take the time to document during the process.

rothaus 06-20-2016 09:01 AM

External LED's for 911
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jwill911 (Post 9136587)
Hi Engelbert,
Are these available now or coming soon?
I realized after posting my last message they are not yet posted on your website, and your last post contained the key word "will".
I'll patiently wait availability.
John


The LED's are available now. Go to Carmagic, External Kits

I have them available for the US (red) and Euro (yellow) lenses, See below.

http://carmagic.us/images/External_LED_Kit_01.jpg

This is a complete set and inludes the following:

The complete Kit for "US" RED Lenses Includes:
Front:
2 each Side Marker LED's - Yellow
2 each Side Marker/Turn Signal LED's - Yellow
Rear:
2 each Rear Brake/Tail light LED's - RED
2 each Back up light LED - Bright White
2 each Turning Signal LED's - RED
2 each Side Marker LED's - RED
1 Flasher Relay for LED Turning Signal
2 LED's for Turning Signal Indicator in Tach Green
1 Wire with connector for Indicator
1 Installation Instruction

The complete Kit for "EURO" AMBER Lenses Includes:
Front:
2 each Side Marker LED's - Yellow
2 each Side Marker/Turn Signal LED's - Yellow
Rear:
2 each Rear Brake/Tail light LED's - RED
2 each Back up light LED - Bright White
2 each Turning Signal LED's - Yellow
2 each Side Marker LED's - Yellow
1 Flasher Relay for LED Turning Signal
2 LED's for Turning Signal Indicator in Tach Green
1 Wire with connector for Indicator
1 Installation Instruction

Thanks all who made some great suggestions and comment and helped to make this a great set.

If you pre-ordered the set, those were shipped last Friday.

I will add the option to the web page so partial kits can be ordered, like turning signal kit, etc.

Thanks
Engelbert

david914 11-08-2016 09:48 AM

Finally installed my LED gauge lamps from rothaus. I chose the vintage white and am very pleased with the results! Big thank you to Englebert for his product!

I have noticed that the clock isn't as bright as the other gauges in my car. I tried rotating the new LED and even without the spacer (it won't really go in any further, but I thought it was worth a shot) with no discernable change in brightness. I can only guess that the clock face is so close to the front of the gauge housing that it isn't allowing as much light to come around. Anybody else notice this?

emac 11-08-2016 12:59 PM

David. Mine is the same. But who looks at the clock!!
Ernie

david914 11-10-2016 03:09 PM

Good to know. I didn't think it was anything wrong with the new LED, just seemed odd that the improvement isn't near as great as with the other gauges. I'm very pleased overall though!

rothaus 11-10-2016 04:51 PM

I agree, the clock is to most difficult gauge to illuminate. For the clock the spacer is needed, because the LED's at the tip would just touch the face from the back side and would not help.

Thanks for the feedback.
Engelbert

rothaus 04-05-2017 09:04 AM

I have now available a Dimmer for instrument lights.

Most of the original dimmers in the light switch don't work any more or just not right. This dimmer is prewired plug and play, and mounts below the knee pad, at the right side of the steering wheel, on the existing nut from the knee pad.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2867/3...9c253436_b.jpg

Cheers
Engelbert

david914 04-05-2017 09:21 AM

Nice accessory Engelbert. I wanted to reiterate that your gauge LED's are one of the best upgrades that I have done to my car. The difference in gauge brightness is incredible. Very pleased!

Eclectic911 04-10-2017 02:09 PM

Just ordered a set of instrument lights for my SC. Hope they go in as easy as everybody claims.
If they work well, I'll order the external lights.

Bergo 04-11-2017 03:06 PM

I ordered a set of gauges LEDs and indicator LEDs, hoping they arrive soon, rushing to get car done to take down to Luftgekuhlt.

AHudson 04-11-2017 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by david914 (Post 9539339)
Nice accessory Engelbert. I wanted to reiterate that your gauge LED's are one of the best upgrades that I have done to my car. The difference in gauge brightness is incredible. Very pleased!


I'd like to reiterate the reiteration! No kidding, EVERY time I get in my car at night, I'm amazed - and appreciative! - of the brightness.

The interior lights are possibly too bright! The gauge lights are absolutely fantastic. Need turning down a notch, which is quite a difference from the old "squint squint, do I have any fuel left?" of old. Truly a great, modern, easy upgrade.

PabloX 07-20-2017 04:17 PM

Tonight, I put these LEDs into my speedo and clock. The next one was the tach but I have a question. Is it necessary to remove the steering wheel to get the tach out? It sure seems like it is.

The next question is should I orient the LEDs in any particular direction relative to the gauge?

Thanks.

rothaus 07-20-2017 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PabloX (Post 9670334)
Tonight, I put these LEDs into my speedo and clock. The next one was the tach but I have a question. Is it necessary to remove the steering wheel to get the tach out? It sure seems like it is.

The next question is should I orient the LEDs in any particular direction relative to the gauge?

Thanks.

The instruction suggests to remove the steering wheel, however, some people did it with the wheel installed.


I LED's should be installed to the shine left and right from the housing not against the housing, see image below.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4309/3...7b664fa7_o.jpg

Hope this helps, enjoy your gauges.
Engelbert

PabloX 07-20-2017 04:55 PM

Thanks Engelbert!

Slowroller 08-10-2017 07:35 AM

Hi Engelbert, thanks for the quick response. I'm putting my order in today.
Joe

fanaudical 10-13-2018 05:30 PM

One more happy customer here (vintage white). These made a huge improvement!

Uwon 10-14-2018 02:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rothaus (Post 9539305)
I have now available a Dimmer for instrument lights.

Most of the original dimmers in the light switch don't work any more or just not right. This dimmer is prewired plug and play, and mounts below the knee pad, at the right side of the steering wheel, on the existing nut from the knee pad.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2867/3...9c253436_b.jpg

Cheers
Engelbert

Interesting. Will that dimmer handle the power required for the footwell blowers? My original switch and resistor is caput. I don’t have an engine bay heater fan.
Johan

rothaus 10-15-2018 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uwon (Post 10215197)
Interesting. Will that dimmer handle the power required for the footwell blowers? My original switch and resistor is caput. I don’t have an engine bay heater fan.
Johan

Sorry, this dimmer is only for the LED's, and cannot handle the power for the blower.

ChrisHoover 07-01-2019 02:46 PM

Does anyone know of source for the tach turn signal bulb sockets? The bulbs are T5 Wedgebase W2x4.6d. The sockets may be VDO N05-800-218

PatrickM 05-16-2020 09:19 AM

Idiot Light Won't go out
 
So I installed the Vintage white bulbs and love them. However, after driving the car, I discovered that the red light at the top of the oil and temp gauge will not go out and my parking brake lamp stays on as well. These didn't use to be a problem and functioned as expected. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1589649328.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1589649328.jpg


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