Engine drop

[Wew]

Well brothers and sisters the time has finally come to take the big leap and drop the engine. Lots of pats already purchased and a few more to get .
Will start addressing all vacuum leaks, thanks tony! Elictrical issues, thanks Dennis!
The coupler whisperer, tirwin and everyone else for all of your insight experience, and knowledge you have shared along the way.
So here's to another beginning in the porsche DIY saga.
This will not be my last post on this topic as I will dip into the well of knowledge this great board provides.
yes I have included the compensatory engine drop pick.

Cheers my friends,

Gary

[Cooper911SC]

Nice work! Have fun with all of the "while I'm in heres".

Sounds like you have a good list going so far. Did much of the same on my SC while doing a clutch.

Cooper

[timmy2]

With all the planning, research and parts collecting you've done, the work ahead of you will be the easy part!
Keep us posted on the progress and feel free to ask any questions you have.
You have my number if you need it.

[Baby]

Hey, Gary. Until a few months ago I lived in Novato. Still nearby. I'm no expert, but I've been through the whole pop-your-motor-and-fix-things a few times. So if you ever need an extra pair of hands give a shout. Good luck, and have fun!

[Wew]

Thanks all for your encouragement and offers. I will be in touch.

Thanks,

Gary

[Wew]

Can't seem to get the Engine ring adaptor past Heat exchanger/muffler exhaust.
Any tips or tricks while its still on the dolly to get it to clear so I can mount if flush would be greatly appreciated.
CIS has been removed. What an oily mess. Lots of clean up to do. Few pieces popping and falling on the floor. Will have to figure out where those few bolts and brackets went
Stay tuned and any advise is appreciated.

Gary

[Robey5]

Congrats on the drop.

Regarding the engine ring for your engine stand: there is a conversion ring/yoke for you to mount that looks kind of like a spider you use instead of the the standard one - otherwise, you have to pull the cross-over exhaust pipe(s) to put that on the engine stand.

That said, looking back - I grabbed the engine from Dad's garage already mounted to the stand - and I did not buy one of these yokes. There are clearance issues as well when you want to pull the flywheel to replace the seal back there.

The yoke will be purchased for my next drop in the future.

[Baby]

Some of us with clearance issues with yokes and adapters ground away some metal to clear the exhaust/exchangers.

[Wew]

Awesome. Great idea.

Thanks!

[Jesse16]

Yes, just grind that little interference. I had to do that with my 87.

[nene]

WOW, some "Brothers" close to me! Baby, I live in Sonoma TOOO!


Serge

[Wew]

I have now discovered that I have the old timing chain tensioners on the car. Amazing that they have lasted 188,000 miles or if they were re done it was done with the old tensioner style, not the carrera tensioners.
So it looks like I am going to have to suck it up and drop another 1k + in this car. Holy moly. Good thing I am having fun.
I plan on buying the kit. Should I also pick up the idler sprockets and a new chain, while I am in there? Anything else?
I have read a lot, and am getting differing opinions. I have spent enough money on this ride already, I don't plan on stopping now.
All the way baby!


Thanks,

Gary

[1-ev.com]

here is more Engine Drop info in my thread What is the fastest drop Engine time did you guys have?

[Baby]

Right on! So far in sonoma I've seen a black one a couple times and a silver one with OR plates. Either of those yours, Serge?

Back on topic, if it were me I'd have a look at the chains and sprockets. That should make the decision easier.

WOW, some "Brothers" close to me! Baby, I live in Sonoma TOOO!





Serge

[Trackrash]

Originally Posted by Wew

I have now discovered that I have the old timing chain tensioners on the car. Amazing that they have lasted 188,000 miles or if they were re done it was done with the old tensioner style, not the carrera tensioners.
So it looks like I am going to have to suck it up and drop another 1k + in this car. Holy moly. Good thing I am having fun.
I plan on buying the kit. Should I also pick up the idler sprockets and a new chain, while I am in there? Anything else?
I have read a lot, and am getting differing opinions. I have spent enough money on this ride already, I don't plan on stopping now.
All the way baby!


Thanks,

Gary

The stock tensioners can be rebuilt. I have rebuilt the ones on my '71 a couple of times without problems. Chain saver collars are good insurance. Of course if you have the funds most folks will recommend Carrera units. I have seen used ones for sale...

You didn't say if you are considering a top end rebuild or just a reseal? Post a picture of your chains, sprockets, and tensioners when you pull the chain covers off. It may be possible to see if the chains are worn.

[Baby]

Btw Wew, if you're replacing your clutch, I'll buy your old one. OR, you can give it to me, I'll use it to make an input shaft immobilizer then return it for your transmission rebuild (hopefully a long way down the road).

[Wew]

Thanks fellas. I am not planning on doing the clutch. All was/is fine with that part.
The engine is in overall good health, so I am not planning on a rebuild. Of course I want to keep it that way, hence the chain tensioner upgrade. Yes I alway wonder if I am overkilling myself by ordering every little part and upgrade option. Even some of the hoses are crazy expensive. And on top of it there is a crack on my airbox, so I need to order another one of those... holy friggin moly
As soon as I get the stand adapter ground down so I can mount it, I will take the covers off and take photo's to share with the brain trust.
Thanks and stay tuned.

Gary

[Wew]

Hi there,

Two snafus early on.
Snafu one: airbox - pulled it off and realized there was a fuel line snapped off the housing portion to the airbox. Awesome. 78sc 44m = $400+
Now heat exchanger exhaust removal last Allen nut is stripped and in a tough spot
So I am contemplating taking the sawzall and just cutting it off for easy access to the last bolt. But I think that would mean new heat exchangers. Oh lord I think that will set me back another 1g larges and change.
Is there any salvaging , saving the situation or do I cut it out and and another $1500+ to my restore budget.

[Baby]

Patience! What do you mean by stripped? Is the head of the screw stripped? If so, you might try clotting a slot in the top and using a horizontally held screwdriver or similar lever. Cycles of penetrant and heat first.

[PrimeMvr]

A couple days of repeated PB Blaster, large easy-out, heat it til it's red with oxy-map. It should come right off. If you can't get a grip with an easy-out, then zap it with oxy-acetalene and deal with what's left of the stud later. If you have to go that route be VERY careful near the surrounding aluminum, very easy to destroy it. I wouldn't trash your heat exchanger over a stripped nut. Use new copper nuts with anti-seize when you reassemble to avoid this in the future.

Baby's comment of patience is also key. I took weeks tearing down my first engine, learning every nuance. The next one took a few days.