Fog light mounting in RUF valance

[garrett490]

What's the best way to mount these lights? All I have is the hardware off the factory 82 911 SC valance. In the pictures the lights are just sitting in the cut outs.




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[JQ911]

Do you have a picture of the backside of the valance? I have Ruf style valance (aftermarket) and mine had thick housing at the fog light holes. I drilled the base of the housing and mounted the fogs. I presume yours are oem rufs

[Bill Verburg]

Ruf have a platform behind the hole, the lights mount w/ stock hardware


Ruf clones usually have a platform similar to Ruf but built in as part of the bumper structure instead of a separate piece, again mount w/ stock hardware, I don't use them anymore but you can see where the one was mounted(braketed bu oil lines here

[Arne2]

Aren't RUF spoilers designed to use the Carrera fog lights?

Wouldn't matter to me either way. I'd do a fog light delete and use the holes for brake ducts instead. The factory fog lights are the least useful parts on my car.

[garrett490]

ok I'll try to figure out a way to use the stock hardware. thanks for advice!

[Bill Verburg]

Originally Posted by garrett490

ok I'll try to figure out a way to use the stock hardware. thanks for advice!

As Arne pointed out you have to have 3.2 Carrera lights, they are not the same as SC

[garrett490]

Got it done. I shoulda realized the original hardware was gonna work. Also installed my DDM Tuning 55w 6000k HID kit. You'll need to have the bumper off to do it and you'll want a uni-bit to enlarge the water drain holes that are in the headlight buckets so you can run wires to and from the headlights. HID install is pretty straight forward once the bumper is removed.






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[Bill Verburg]

Originally Posted by garrett490

Got it done. I shoulda realized the original hardware was gonna work. Also installed my DDM Tuning 55w 6000k HID kit. You'll need to have the bumper off to do it and you'll want a uni-bit to enlarge the water drain holes that are in the headlight buckets so you can run wires to and from the headlights. HID install is pretty straight forward once the bumper is removed.






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They are in there but they don't fit like the 3.2 Carrera lights will, the SC light is the same L/R, the late ones come in Left and Right version w/a shroud to closely fit the valance aperture. The other thing that needs to be addressed is the washer reservoir, the 3.2 Carrera versions have an indented space for clearance the SC versions do not have this indent and will interfere w/ the back of the light

[tirwin]

Garrett,

Nice job!

Are those the Hella super tones horns on the side by any chance? I bought a set and haven't installed them yet. Just curious if you had to do anything special to mount them.

Also are you using a front oil cooler? I've been thinking about going with this type of front valance as a way to crease airflow over the front A/C condenser and possibly using a larger aftermarket one up front.

[JQ911]

Those look like super tones.

Garret - Do you have a slight gap between the top part of the valance meeting the bumper blade? I recall I had mine and just bought those rubber seals and fitted it in between so dirt and other particles won't get stuck in those gaps.

[garrett490]

Originally Posted by tirwin

Garrett,

Nice job!

Are those the Hella super tones horns on the side by any chance? I bought a set and haven't installed them yet. Just curious if you had to do anything special to mount them.

Also are you using a front oil cooler? I've been thinking about going with this type of front valance as a way to crease airflow over the front A/C condenser and possibly using a larger aftermarket one up front.

Not sure on the horns...will check them out closer tonight or tomorrow. I've only had the car 4 months and those horns were already there. It looks like there is a stock front oil cooler with some sort of fan mounted to blow air through it. I am not mounting an oil cooler as the real Ruf versions were designed for.

[garrett490]

Originally Posted by JQ911

Those look like super tones.

Garret - Do you have a slight gap between the top part of the valance meeting the bumper blade? I recall I had mine and just bought those rubber seals and fitted it in between so dirt and other particles won't get stuck in those gaps.

Yea...I can tell its gonna be hard to have a nice fit. I have not actually used the adhesive yet to stick the valance to the bumper...I just taped it in place and drilled the holes on the ends so that the valance would screw into the pieces that come down from the front fenders. Gonna get it painted then put it up there and stick it on....I can already tell its gonna be hard to make look right. Good idea with the seals. I have a feeling I'll be doing the same thing, which kinda sucks that they couldn't make them with a better fit. Of course I coulda put the valance flat against the bumper but then the ends would extend into the wheel wells and that would look absolutely terrible so I opted to line up the ends with the wheel wells and then figure out how to get the valance to fit tightly tightly up against the bumper later.

[garrett490]

Originally Posted by Bill Verburg

They are in there but they don't fit like the 3.2 Carrera lights will, the SC light is the same L/R, the late ones come in Left and Right version w/a shroud to closely fit the valance aperture. The other thing that needs to be addressed is the washer reservoir, the 3.2 Carrera versions have an indented space for clearance the SC versions do not have this indent and will interfere w/ the back of the light

great..ha. Will let ya know how that goes. As far as the fog lights. You have any close up pictures of a Ruf style valance with carrera fog lights? Most pics I see are from a distance and I can't tell if they are SC fogs or carrera fogs.

[Racerbvd]

Originally Posted by garrett490

great..ha. Will let ya know how that goes. As far as the fog lights. You have any close up pictures of a Ruf style valance with carrera fog lights? Most pics I see are from a distance and I can't tell if they are SC fogs or carrera fogs.

As pointed out, the Ruf valance was DESIGNED for the 84-89 foglights, not SC lights.

[spuggy]

Originally Posted by Bill Verburg

The other thing that needs to be addressed is the washer reservoir, the 3.2 Carrera versions have an indented space for clearance the SC versions do not have this indent and will interfere w/ the back of the light

Or ditch the stock washer reservoir altogether and use the late headlight washer reservoir (mounted inside the trunk on the wing by the fuse box) to clean the screen.

Probably not a good option if you're going wheel-to-wheel rallying at night, as you might need that to blast the mud off the headlights.

Otherwise, seems to work pretty well.

[garrett490]

gotchya...yea thanks for the pictures. I see the difference now. It really helped when I looked at the carrera fog light picture for the part listing on this website. $439 new....I'll take two and a spare in case one doesn't work - HA! . And I held the valance up against my bumper in the position it will be when mounted, with the fogs installed, and it did not interfere with the washer reservoir. Maybe I'm just lucky or this version of the Ruf Valance is slightly different than others.